EVE General Discussion

fix'd that for ya Buzz.

Despite being a care bear deeply believing in the Sandbox (anti Hello Kitty Online) I tend to agree with the OP.

*Cooking up some popcorn*.

Necro all day erry day?

Like the GD doesn't have enough junk on the front page already.

I would like to publicly state here that my behavior of ganking miners is in no way shape or form associated with or connected to Hulkageddon V or any future iteration of it. I do it to terrorize those in highsec who feel that they can hide from those of us in low/nullsec and be variably safe.

I've never used any of the questionable tactics you've mentioned. Just good ole-fashioned scout, warp in, gank, warp pod out. So unless they put a big horn on the top of my Catalyst that blares in local "Ze gankerz are comingz! Ze gankers are comingz!" I doubt anything CCP can do will stop me whatsoever...short of making Concordokken 100% instant in any sec status system.

[citation needed]

Also... so what if that Hulk miner is the alt of a nullsec player? Does this somehow magically make their opinion on suicide ganking more positive? More importantly, does it make their subscription fee somehow worth less money than that of a "carebear?" CCP does not care if "half" of those hisec accounts are just alts of nullsec players. If 70% of their subscriptions are in hisec, then 70% of their real world, real money revenue comes from hisec.

If a null-sec player has an extra account that mines/trades in hisec, and they keep getting suicide ganked there, then they may well just cancel that extra account just like any other frustrated hisec miner/trader. That means revenue loss for CCP, and they're going to look at the loss of that extra subscription no differently than the loss of a lone subscription from a purely casual hisec player. It's all the same to their accounting department.

I'm not trying to propagandize either hisec or nullsec lifestyle here, merely pointing out some real-world economic realities that CCP most definitely place higher than anyone personal opinions on which play style is superior. They are a business, they want to make money, and thus if they have any sense they will side with the biggest slice of the pie. If you're "50%" alts are all in hisec, then they're part of that hisec pie no matter how much you love your nullsec mains.

Thing is a nullsec player (usually) spends enough brain power to figure out how to make the inevitable suicide gank as unlikely as possible, thus maximizing his profits thanks to lower volume of minerals sold by high sec players that don't want to spend said certain amount of time thinking about the problem. And imho the majority of the second group of miners are either bots or very lazy macro miners. At least I hope so for the sake of the future of humanity.

Give these people a gun, tell them it'll make free isk and they'll shoot themselves in the foot every time.

Color me silly, but isn't the "backlash" to Hulkageddon simply the tiericide of the mining ships scheduled for the winter expansion? Lowered skill requirements plus options for a BS level tank and/or improved AFK mining equals anti-suicide-ganking-miners, high-sec buff, no?

On the down (or up depending on your viewpoint) side, lowering the skill requirements and easier mining should translate into mineral price drops.

That was the percentage of Characters, not accounts or players were in HS at the time of that snapshot.

According to the snapshot, there were 611k Characters in HS, 50k in LS, 90k in Null, and 20k in WH space. Now, EvE does not have 780k accounts, so clearly, the snapshot is not representative of accounts.

(By the way, the QEN Snapshot also showed 37k Characters in Jita)

Unless CCP does a Census, asking people where they consider their home to be and get good, high quality results, the distribution of players is essentially unknowable.

PS: Why would someone in 0.0 have a HS Mining alt? Mining's pretty good in 0.0