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Multiboxing WH sites

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-30 19:46:48 UTC
Hey all, I was just curious how people generally multiboxed their sites. I have a 3 monitor setup and generally would run 2 DPS and one cloaky scout for safety, one on each monitor.

It works but still can get tedious, especially in an emergency warpout type of situation. I've looked at SW like isboxer but can't make the jump as it seems overkill for what I am trying to do. But I was curious how others did it.

And yea I know this isn't WH specific exactly. But in a way it is. I can multibox missions, but i don't consider it the same as multibox efficiency isn't as key for me since there is lots of safety. WH's are so much more dangerous it makes me try and multibox more efficiently.

illy velo
Emergency and I
#2 - 2012-04-30 20:25:31 UTC
I always preferred friends and corp mates to multiboxing personally. You kind of already sound like you know what you are doing, and if it works keep doing it. Eventually you will get your salvager popped doing what you are doing but that's not my problem. Big smile


Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-04-30 20:32:11 UTC
illy velo wrote:
I always preferred friends and corp mates to multiboxing personally. You kind of already sound like you know what you are doing, and if it works keep doing it. Eventually you will get your salvager popped doing what you are doing but that's not my problem. Big smile





Well yea friends are always better. But sometimes nobody else is on.

And even with friends I will generally run at least 2 clients (I always keep a cloaky scout out).

Pretty sure what I am doing will not contribute to my salvager gank risk over anything else. (I dont try to run a site and salvage at the same time. Too hard to keep an eye on dscan etc).
illy velo
Emergency and I
#4 - 2012-04-30 20:50:14 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:

Pretty sure what I am doing will not contribute to my salvager gank risk over anything else. (I dont try to run a site and salvage at the same time. Too hard to keep an eye on dscan etc).


It depends. When I am lurking around in a stealth bomber I can usually tell when someone is multiboxing by how their ships move in little delays. I once decloaked and bombed a noctis that was near two drakes (that ran the sites) and was confident that the noctis pilot was the same person as the drake pilots. Sure enough I had him bombed and follow up torped and the drakes never moved.

Of course, you could salvage with your site running ships and that might actually be a better idea since sleeper salvage doesn't take much room.
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#5 - 2012-04-30 20:55:32 UTC
I always found it better (for myself) to run multiple accounts on one monitor. After my years of playing Everquest like this, I find it much easier to just alt+tab between different windowed accounts.

Also, I always keep a scout on a wh, just in case. To make this even easier, I turn off the volume for my accounts that are running the anom, and turn up the volume of my scout's account. That way if someone jumps into the wh, you hear it instead of having to see it.

No trolling please

Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-30 21:03:48 UTC
illy velo wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:

Pretty sure what I am doing will not contribute to my salvager gank risk over anything else. (I dont try to run a site and salvage at the same time. Too hard to keep an eye on dscan etc).


It depends. When I am lurking around in a stealth bomber I can usually tell when someone is multiboxing by how their ships move in little delays. I once decloaked and bombed a noctis that was near two drakes (that ran the sites) and was confident that the noctis pilot was the same person as the drake pilots. Sure enough I had him bombed and follow up torped and the drakes never moved.

Of course, you could salvage with your site running ships and that might actually be a better idea since sleeper salvage doesn't take much room.


Like I said, I don't multibox the salvaging step.

And the big key to WH PVE in my opinion is proper intel. The only noctis I ever lost wasn't due to multiboxing error but lack of scouting. I thought I could clear a couple quick sites before work and rushed in, not taking the time to scout the WH for danger.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-30 21:11:38 UTC
I find a 4 client setup works fine on 2 screens.
I do it like this:

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9089/soloc.jpg

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-04-30 21:17:18 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
I find a 4 client setup works fine on 2 screens.
I do it like this:

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9089/soloc.jpg


I should actually try this. Not like I need the whole screen when running like this, and it would be less mouse distance to move.

BTW you blacked out most of everything, but you forgot the system on your dscan. Not that its a big surprise that you were running in at least a C5 anyhow.

Thanks.
Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#9 - 2012-04-30 21:25:16 UTC
lol

I only use 4 clients when I haul out of a C1. Have to watch out that the multitasking doesn't fries my head.

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-04-30 21:39:13 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
BTW you blacked out most of everything, but you forgot the system on your dscan. Not that its a big surprise that you were running in at least a C5 anyhow.


yeah i noticed it when i did a second pass but since i'm no longer on PVE break im not in that system anymore so whatever.

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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2012-04-30 21:42:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Substantia Nigra
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Hey all, I was just curious how people generally multiboxed their sites.


I am usually multiboxing, and usually using 2 high-end CPUs, sometimes supplemented by a decent laptop, and 4 or 5 screens (2 large, 2 small, and the laptop).

For most of my w-system PvE work I am running 4 or more toons.

My PvE fleet setup is usually 2 do-ers (DPS-doods or miners / harvesters), 1 supporter (fleet boost tengu or orca), and 1 watcher (scout with DS-probe deployed). Sometimes I’m also freighter hauling or doing some hisec industry at the same time. The watcher has a small screen to himself, the booster is background minimised if I am running sites. If I am mining the orca booster has a screen to himself, because he also warps in to pickup the ore / gas. For running sites each of the DPS ships has a large screen to themselves, and when mining / harvesting they’re in overlapping windows on a large screen. The additional high sec stuff is running on a very old small screen.
One of my DPS guys is also a perfect salvager, so when we've cleared a bundle of sites he does the rounds with the noctis. My scanner is also a perfect can-opener so we tend to do a bit of a ship shuffle after clearing mag / radar sites.
I set my fleet up so that the main window toon can squad-warp the relevant parties out … altho haven’t had to do that in any urgency for an awful long time.

For my w-space PvP (currently bomber / recon fleets) I have two DPS guys, each with a large screen run by a separate box, and my scout in the larger of the small screens. Oddly I’ve found it best to have my main tackler running on the slightly slower box on the second-largest screen. Perhaps it’s the mouse or the screen refresh or that each object takes up a larger portion of the screen (IDK), but the tackles seem to be much more positive and reliable on that system … when fractions of a second make the difference between successfully pointing someone and them getting into warp.

For my bombers bar stuff or other larger PvP fleets I usually run one toon on the main screen using the fastest box, and have TS/Mumble/Whatever running on the other box … and often some other activity (scanning a system I’m camping or doing stuff in hisec) running quietly on that other box.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-04-30 21:51:20 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Hey all, I was just curious how people generally multiboxed their sites.


I am usually multiboxing, and usually using 2 high-end CPUs, sometimes supplemented by a decent laptop, and 4 or 5 screens (2 large, 2 small, and the laptop).

For most of my w-system PvE work I am running 4 or more toons.

My PvE fleet setup is usually 2 do-ers (DPS-doods or miners / harvesters), 1 supporter (fleet boost tengu or orca), and 1 watcher (scout with DS-probe deployed). Sometimes I’m also freighter hauling or doing some hisec industry at the same time. The watcher has a small screen to himself, the booster is background minimised if I am running sites. If I am mining the orca booster has a screen to himself, because he also warps in to pickup the ore / gas. For running sites each of the DPS ships has a large screen to themselves, and when mining / harvesting they’re in overlapping windows on a large screen. The additional high sec stuff is running on a very old small screen.
One of my DPS guys is also a perfect salvager, so when we've cleared a bundle of sites he does the rounds with the noctis. My scanner is also a perfect can-opener so we tend to do a bit of a ship shuffle after clearing mag / radar sites.
I set my fleet up so that the main window toon can squad-warp the relevant parties out … altho haven’t had to do that in any urgency for an awful long time.

For my w-space PvP (currently bomber / recon fleets) I have two DPS guys, each with a large screen run by a separate box, and my scout in the larger of the small screens. Oddly I’ve found it best to have my main tackler running on the slightly slower box on the second-largest screen. Perhaps it’s the mouse or the screen refresh or that each object takes up a larger portion of the screen (IDK), but the tackles seem to be much more positive and reliable on that system … when fractions of a second make the difference between successfully pointing someone and them getting into warp.

For my bombers bar stuff or other larger PvP fleets I usually run one toon on the main screen using the fastest box, and have TS/Mumble/Whatever running on the other box … and often some other activity (scanning a system I’m camping or doing stuff in hisec) running quietly on that other box.


Interesting. I actually have 3 machines on my desk. Desktop with 3 monitors a Macbook pro and HP notebook, all connected with Synergy. But I have never trusted synergy for multiboxing and trying to use multuple keyboards/mice is annoying.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-04-30 21:52:56 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
BTW you blacked out most of everything, but you forgot the system on your dscan. Not that its a big surprise that you were running in at least a C5 anyhow.


yeah i noticed it when i did a second pass but since i'm no longer on PVE break im not in that system anymore so whatever.



Well, what I was getting at is even if ppl knew where you guys were, I am sure you would hold your own. I certainly wouldn't be seeking you guys out. Heck the one time I had a connection to an exhale. WH I pretty much took the day off Lol
Unimaginative Guy
Dutch Squad
#14 - 2012-04-30 23:38:09 UTC
I generally just use my tengu and fly with friends. SOMETIMES ill alt tab to another eve client to throw a loki in there but i dont see the point. I enjoy the social aspect.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-04-30 23:47:11 UTC
Unimaginative Guy wrote:
I generally just use my tengu and fly with friends. SOMETIMES ill alt tab to another eve client to throw a loki in there but i dont see the point. I enjoy the social aspect.


Maybe, I'm just in a mood, but I get such a kick out of these types of replies.

Yes I enjoy the social aspect as well. But ya know, sometimes just nobody is on. Maybe I had a day off from work etc. So I'm all alone and feel like doing something. But I don't feel like scanning down WH's looking for a gank, so I'll run some sites that spawned in the home system.

When that happens I was curious how other people would multibox vs, how I have been doing it. What I wasn't really looking for is answers to the merits of social gameplay. But thanks anyway.
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-04-30 23:52:33 UTC
Depends on what class I'm running but C1-C3 I run 2-3 drakes. 2 Drakes/noctis(cloaked or out of system) or 3 drakes with one to swap out to Noctis after an hour.

I run dual monitor with ISboxer, mostly for the rapid switching of screens vs. trying to alt-tab.

I try to always run with one other person though so I have somebody else to spam d-scan for probes/ships for me (gets hectic running 2-3 toons).

The important thing Wormhole wise is to make sure that every ship can tank each wave easily; when you run in a fleet it's easy to warp in and out, but when you're running 2-3+ characters your reaction time just naturally slides. This is why I use drakes; its really easy to just run all of them with the exact same fit for about 400 dps and 500 omni tank.

C4s I tend to use a more complex setup custom built for whatever bonuses I have; last time was a shield buffer Domi, cruise raven, and a basilisk. Cap energy transfer runs through the battleships for 90%+ stability, effectively countering energy neutralizing, about 900 or 1000 dps and about a 1k tank.

Svo.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.

Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#17 - 2012-05-01 01:36:33 UTC
The better question to ask is...who doesn't multibox sites? Given you can pretty much py half a PLEX per month in PI it's only 5-6 hours of PVE a month to afford a second toon anyway.

I multibox my ladars. Never been ganked in 3 years.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-05-01 02:19:18 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
The better question to ask is...who doesn't multibox sites? Given you can pretty much py half a PLEX per month in PI it's only 5-6 hours of PVE a month to afford a second toon anyway.


because you can make about 1.5-2bil/hour multiboxing c5-6 sites...
you enjoy your PI.

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drdxie
#19 - 2012-05-01 03:26:15 UTC
I dual box in window mode on a laptop Shocked Just overlap the screens slightly. Downside if you don't pay attention and you get jumped.. you loose 2 ships. I lost 2 Tengu's doing this when the wife distracted me for a split second...

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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#20 - 2012-05-02 05:22:25 UTC
Its called scamming, people. Most time efficient way of making ISk in the game. Khanh'rhh is just better at it than you, so don't be jellymad.

@Jack Miton: I would personally consider hexaboxing C5-C6 sites a hell of a lot of work. A lot of ISK, but sheesh.
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