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CCP's Intellectual Property Being Used Without Permission?

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seany1212
M Y S T
#21 - 2012-04-29 01:32:10 UTC  |  Edited by: seany1212
Stonkeep wrote:
seany1212 wrote:
Markus Reese wrote:
Well, not much ccp can do about it. First off, China has a notorious history of ripping off intellectual property, patent infringement, you name it. Second, chinese govt doesn't enforce these. CCP could try, but nothing would come of it. Let them take the pictures is about all that can happen.


Pretty much this, good luck trying to issue cease and desist letters to china Roll All you can do is just negative review it into the ground Twisted


It has already been explained. They do not need to contact China, They just need to contact Apple, a US based company where copyright infringement is a very serious offense. Apple will remove it from the store and the App will seize to exist. Done and Done.


The app wont cease to exist, it just wont exist on the Apple store, they could still sell it anywhere else that doesn't notice it infringes copyright or doesn't care Roll

EDIT: Huh, first page snipe Shocked
Rascal deJascal
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-04-29 01:34:34 UTC
Done and done.

Lol and more lol. Big smile
Yay justice.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-04-29 02:24:54 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Vagenbrae wrote:
Just wanted to bring up a concern I had about an iPhone game, called Galaxy Empire, that seems to be using IP from Ogame, Eve Online, Star Trek, and others. Maybe they are paying for it, and maybe not. Just thought I would raise awareness, in case they are not. I was looking for a game to play on iPhone, and I saw one that reminded me of Ogame, from when I played a while back. After getting it, I realized it wasn't like Ogame. It is Ogame. The same gameplay style, a lot of the same artwork, and item descriptions. They also use a bit of artwork from Eve Online.

I took some snapshots of the game, with my iPhone (sorry for the small pictures, as iPhone has limited screen real estate). I posted them on Photobucket at http://s1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii512/cosaides/

The Chinese-made game itself is free to play, but they offer micro transactions of "Dark Matter" that can accelerate building and research time, as well as provide additional resources of metal, crystal, and gas.

Anyway, this is just an FYI, in case CCP's legal team wants to get involved. I hate IP pirates.


If you'd reframe this into an EVE Specific gripe with snapshots of our stolen artwork and send it to security@ccpgames.com I can assure you it will vanish.


Will you also personally go to the developers house and show them the error of their ways?

orbital bombardment

Exterminatus

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Aleksander Erkkinen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-04-29 02:45:39 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Bienator II wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Vagenbrae wrote:
snip
snip
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orbital bombardment

Exterminatus

In a thread about IP infringement! I dunno, I found that hilarious.

Anyway, IP is a sticky subject for me too, especially how the US is using it to overreach it's authority (extradition of foriegn citizens, ect), but I do feel it's wrong to steal someone's art and call it your own. Id rather see CCP pressure the developers of the app to remove the offending artwork, rather than get nuked in a BFBVFS. It's not like CCP is under threat of losing rl isk over this.
Tertharan
#25 - 2012-04-29 03:33:17 UTC
seany1212 wrote:
Stonkeep wrote:
seany1212 wrote:
Markus Reese wrote:
Well, not much ccp can do about it. First off, China has a notorious history of ripping off intellectual property, patent infringement, you name it. Second, chinese govt doesn't enforce these. CCP could try, but nothing would come of it. Let them take the pictures is about all that can happen.


Pretty much this, good luck trying to issue cease and desist letters to china Roll All you can do is just negative review it into the ground Twisted


It has already been explained. They do not need to contact China, They just need to contact Apple, a US based company where copyright infringement is a very serious offense. Apple will remove it from the store and the App will seize to exist. Done and Done.


The app wont cease to exist, it just wont exist on the Apple store, they could still sell it anywhere else that doesn't notice it infringes copyright or doesn't care Roll

EDIT: Huh, first page snipe Shocked

iPhone apps can only be sold on iTunes except to people with jailbroken phones, who aren't a particularly large market. Removing it from the Apple Store is as effective as killing it entirely. (Of course if there's an Android version that's another matter entirely.)
adopt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-04-30 15:04:07 UTC
ChYph3r wrote:
Andski wrote:
a few things i learned from this thread

- you play third-rate games
- adopt is no longer in TEST
- people still use photobucket



Andski you beat me to the post i learned the same things.....its truly amazing


Don't worry friends, its only temporary, I shall be **** posting and irritating your forums/jabber soon enough.
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-04-30 15:19:47 UTC
Good call on alerting on this rip-off. It's tough to make a living as an artist or designer (either as an individual or as a company). If you're actually one of the few who get paid to do it, you've probably made plenty of sacrifices along the way to get there. It's crap for somebody to come along and just rip your work off for free, IMO.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-04-30 15:25:54 UTC
Vagenbrae wrote:
They may still be able to get it removed from Apple's online store.


True true! I don't have iPhone, well any apple product actually. So don't actually know how the apps work in terms of getting them. If it is on the app store, that would be quite effective then getting it removed if there are not really any other ways to share or purchase it that is mainstream.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
WisdomLikeSilence
BurgerkingTM
#29 - 2012-04-30 16:02:59 UTC
seany1212 wrote:
Markus Reese wrote:
Well, not much ccp can do about it. First off, China has a notorious history of ripping off intellectual property, patent infringement, you name it. Second, chinese govt doesn't enforce these. CCP could try, but nothing would come of it. Let them take the pictures is about all that can happen.


Pretty much this, good luck trying to issue cease and desist letters to china Roll All you can do is just negative review it into the ground Twisted



if its on the iphone, then apple have the responsibility of removing it, which they will and bloody quick.
Serene Repose
#30 - 2012-04-30 16:21:55 UTC
Tattletale.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
IntegralHellsing
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-06-03 17:50:17 UTC
Just to add that this game is still up and running in iTunes,

http://www.tap4fun.com/galaxy-empire

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/galaxy-empire-deluxe/id477414054?mt=8

Charging 4 dollars for 'deluxe' edition.
Delthus
Respawn Disabled
#32 - 2012-06-15 16:57:52 UTC
A friend has an iPad and I had him download it. Here's some more images and we've reported it to security@ address you posted earlier.

http://www.tidytibs.com/img/eve/galaxy_empire/list.html
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#33 - 2012-06-15 17:21:55 UTC
I like how the Drake is a bomber. In honor of this new information I would like to formally request that CCP change the role of the drake to that of Stealth Bomber. Big smile

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
Torneach
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-06-15 18:40:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Torneach
Delthus wrote:
A friend has an iPad and I had him download it. Here's some more images and we've reported it to security@ address you posted earlier.

http://www.tidytibs.com/img/eve/galaxy_empire/list.html


WHAT?

They reduced the mighty Abaddon to a mere 'recycler' ship!

They should be launched into orbit for that slight.

EvilEvilEvilEvilEvil

EDIT:

PEOPLE OF PROVIDENCE, HEAR ME!!!

...
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-06-15 19:05:50 UTC
Tee moral of this nice story (bro) is that iPhone is bad but sells numbers. Lol

brb
Trappist Monk
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-06-15 19:05:52 UTC
seany1212 wrote:
Markus Reese wrote:
Well, not much ccp can do about it. First off, China has a notorious history of ripping off intellectual property, patent infringement, you name it. Second, chinese govt doesn't enforce these. CCP could try, but nothing would come of it. Let them take the pictures is about all that can happen.


Pretty much this, good luck trying to issue cease and desist letters to china Roll All you can do is just negative review it into the ground Twisted

except that ccp has business interests in china, which means they are partnered with some commie party officials who can and will "take care of it."
Trollin
Perkone
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-06-15 19:50:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Trollin
CCP Sreegs wrote:


If you'd reframe this into an EVE Specific gripe with snapshots of our stolen artwork and send it to security@ccpgames.com I can assure you it will vanish.


that they forum posted it in your general discussion and you reply want us to do the footwork is lulz
you have been notified
you even replied to the notification, indicating it has been seen/accepted

We are our own worst enemy.
Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2012-06-15 19:52:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Adalun Dey
Trappist Monk wrote:
except that ccp has business interests in china, which means they are partnered with some commie party officials who can and will "take care of it."

Hah, who do you think made that app in the first place? Copyright infringement is a national sport in China. Ever heard about Joe?

[i]" Take my love, take my land, take me where I can not stand, I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. "[/i]
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-06-16 02:23:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Ris Dnalor
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Vagenbrae wrote:
Just wanted to bring up a concern I had about an iPhone game, called Galaxy Empire, that seems to be using IP from Ogame, Eve Online, Star Trek, and others. Maybe they are paying for it, and maybe not. Just thought I would raise awareness, in case they are not. I was looking for a game to play on iPhone, and I saw one that reminded me of Ogame, from when I played a while back. After getting it, I realized it wasn't like Ogame. It is Ogame. The same gameplay style, a lot of the same artwork, and item descriptions. They also use a bit of artwork from Eve Online.

I took some snapshots of the game, with my iPhone (sorry for the small pictures, as iPhone has limited screen real estate). I posted them on Photobucket at http://s1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii512/cosaides/

The Chinese-made game itself is free to play, but they offer micro transactions of "Dark Matter" that can accelerate building and research time, as well as provide additional resources of metal, crystal, and gas.

Anyway, this is just an FYI, in case CCP's legal team wants to get involved. I hate IP pirates.


If you'd reframe this into an EVE Specific gripe with snapshots of our stolen artwork and send it to security@ccpgames.com I can assure you it will vanish.



wow, really?

you know about this from reading it on the forum, but can't be arsed to pass along the information yourself?

amazing. Shocked

if it doesn't matter anymore than that to you, why should it matter to us?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

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Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-06-16 02:32:19 UTC
at least they got the Drake right, sort of

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