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Wormhole living - forever a roam?
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Drakos Vala
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-04-26 11:28:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Drakos Vala
Lots of posts dripping with information for you to pick through, written by a lot of experienced wormhole dwellers.

However why do you want to do it alone?

Sure, doing it alone cuts out security issues with having to sort out the pos access etc, and all profit goes to you as sole owner of the operation. Being on your own limits you to C3 or below for general isk making.

Being in a corp allows you to jump up to the C4's and C5's (even C6's if you join a large enough corp) and yes you are tied to doing sites in groups but the payout from each site is drastically increased along with the safety.

Safety in numbers has been used for millenia Big smile

Plus an established corp will have its own pos so you dont have to buy one Big smile

Im also a complete wormhole nublet before anyone points it out Roll

Edit: Nice title P
Waxfire
#22 - 2012-04-26 13:58:11 UTC
@discordigant

And who would this mighty Alliance be ? The Space Potatoes ?

You told him to get as many replacement ships as possible so he doesn't has to travel to high sec ...
and then you tell him to use a large POS so he doesnt have high losses when hes being ganked ?!?

Well if my Medium POS is being destroyed i barely will have any loss and am able to replace it very quickly
but sure replacing a large POS is way cheaper to you .... since you are in such a large Alliance ...

Btw something to think about:

If someone kills a Medium Pos with only a SMA what do you have ? Barely anything ...

If someone kills a Large POS with a SMA and tons of Storage you get more out of it - why ? - because CHA use CPU and you know what happens with CPU structures dont you ?

He can still log in the Orca with all his stuff on it.

Its that simple:

Safest: Corp with a Large POS
Second Safest Large POS with many alts and equipment =>Substantias Post
Third Safest Small or Medium POS in a System noone really wants
Kill on sight One or Two Chars in a Large POS with as much storage as possible (POS Defense allone wont help).

You (the original Poster) should consider joining a WH Corp before spending to much ISK on it ... after all the decision is still yours :)

Some people know.....some people just say they know.

Fits perfectly
Gonzo TheGreat
Donuttown
#23 - 2012-04-26 15:28:45 UTC
Waxfire wrote:
@discordigant
Its that simple:

Safest: Corp with a Large POS
Second Safest Large POS with many alts and equipment =>Substantias Post
Third Safest Small or Medium POS in a System noone really wants
Kill on sight One or Two Chars in a Large POS with as much storage as possible (POS Defense allone wont help).

Some people know.....some people just say they know.



I disagree, seeing a lone small or medium POS for us will start a quick round of "IS IT STRONTED?"
We've reinforced so many of those just to find that out.
Newbie Ned
Real Nice And Laidback Corporation
#24 - 2012-04-26 18:37:39 UTC
Discordigant - that's all mighty aggressive stuff for someone who it appears doesn't even live in a WH. Seems theres those that don't and are throwing theories around as fact and those that do giving advice.

I spend nearly all my time in WHs and there are plenty of small and med poses in C1 and C2s that last.

Equally I have never been killed by a bubble whilst working in a WH. Cloakies use points to stop you warping, not bubbles so being podded hasn't happened to me yet. Ofc you die a fair bit but you don't get podded. You do know the difference?
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-04-26 21:14:47 UTC
Newbie Ned wrote:
Discordigant - that's all mighty aggressive stuff for someone who it appears doesn't even live in a WH. Seems theres those that don't and are throwing theories around as fact and those that do giving advice.

I spend nearly all my time in WHs and there are plenty of small and med poses in C1 and C2s that last.

Equally I have never been killed by a bubble whilst working in a WH. Cloakies use points to stop you warping, not bubbles so being podded hasn't happened to me yet. Ofc you die a fair bit but you don't get podded. You do know the difference?


I have run into, and run with plenty of WH gangs that bring along a Hictor. I guess you have just been lucky. They get usd plenty in WH's
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2012-04-26 21:17:51 UTC
Hey! I just noticed that we now have a 'wormholes' forum group. Woo hoo :-)

/me moves.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
discordigant
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-04-26 21:56:03 UTC
Waxfire wrote:
@discordigant

And who would this mighty Alliance be ? The Space Potatoes ?

You told him to get as many replacement ships as possible so he doesn't has to travel to high sec ...
and then you tell him to use a large POS so he doesnt have high losses when hes being ganked ?!?



It is the mighty Space Potatoes you're correct. Roll

You see when you finally learn to kill someone and not just continually get your ass ganked then you will clue on a little.....

Seriously you fitted a Proteus as a salvager?

And at no point did i say a Large POS avoids him any losses, learn to read before you post your walls of gibberish. I said if he had a large POS in a C1 while doing it solo, he would last a while. In the end even a large POS helps you little if your in a 5 man corp by yourself will get you noticed.
Waxfire
#28 - 2012-04-27 11:54:29 UTC
@discordigant

Uhh you were looking up my profile .. yes i used a Proteus as a Salvager because i can afford to do so ...

I also used a an Armor tanked Rattlesnake inside a Wolf Ray system ... since it had better values than a Dominix ....

I havent lost that many ships in the existence of this char considering i am living in WHs ...

I am able to read - are you ?

There are a few here who posted they live in Small and Medium POSes but its seems you know everything better ..

or wait if you do why do you have to get this personally ?

Cant have someone with a different opinion ?


I am not a big PvPer but at least i dont hide behind a Toon when posting.
Shaky Ground
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-04-27 12:39:24 UTC
discordigant wrote:
Shaky Ground wrote:
Bernie Nator wrote:
I am going to pistol whip the next fool what says "A small or medium tower is viable when living in a wormhole".

No, it's not. It literally is just the fastest way to get someone to jump into your system and wait for you to do something. Then they pounce and you die.


Four months in a C3. Small tower.

Some people know.....some people just say they know.



TBH i am highly doubtful. I know for a fact if we came across that crap in a C3 an alt would be logged and your hole would be rolled and sold on the following weekend. C3's sell well these days, every man and his ***** wants one. I also know that other WH alliances would do the very same thing, hence i call bullshit on that.


I don't give a **** what you want to call. I'm rolling in isk and suggesting to the OP that he could be too.
Omir Kajil
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-04-27 20:19:28 UTC
Oh wow! So many wonderful replies and so much info to sift through! XD

AND SO MUCH HATE! o_o

Sounds like I'm hearing a lot of recommendations to join a WH corp. I've been in one or two, but they either weren't very active or I ended up not being on much due to RL stuff. But perhaps the third time's the charm. :D

Also sounds like having redundancy is good. ie more ships of each type than you need in the event I lose one occasionally. 

I'm also feeling like I may go with a small or medium POS, as I'm not necessarily looking to actually make t3 ships... Yet. :) just looking to make some moneys! :D 

And the previous comment about not encountering  bubbles in WH-space... Ima have to agree with others m8, seems you've just been lucky. :) I've been caught in a bubble 3 or 4 times, though I have managed to escape from said bubbles on occasion due to incompetent USE of the bubble, or just favorable conditions. But I HAVE been podded lol. One can never be too careful or paranoid in EVE.

Well I will definitely take all this into consideration. 

Another question concerning logistics:
Logistics has always been a drag, at least for me. Even in just empire space. Sounds like I'll have to move a lot of ships into the WH once I'm set up. Is there any quick safe way to do this or does it have to be long and arduous?
Waxfire
#31 - 2012-04-30 09:37:32 UTC
There is no save way to move the ships in.
Just fly them to the system the WH Entrance is then scout if its save and move in ... if one gets shot well :)
Nanny State
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-05-03 01:32:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Nanny State
threads like these are why i love eve. everyone states their own strategies for dealing with the complex, harsh, but rewarding sandbox we find ourselves in. and in true eve fashion people argue and sling insults at each other for disagreeing lol. I've never soloed in a WH, but i cosign to the thought that you should join a WH corp/alliance. That way you will be less prey and more predator PvP speaking.

On a related note, if anyone can get me safe passage into J172551 I will pay them 200,000,000 ISK. It has a static highsec. PST to my alt - Gas Guzzler

TYIA
Qui Shon
Lone Wolf Freelancers
#33 - 2012-05-03 11:22:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Qui Shon
Substantia Nigra wrote:
Despite what others might believe you *can* solo everything up to and including C5 sites

Obviously my view of ‘solo’ is not just-one-toon, so could easily also translate into ‘small group’.


Just a small note, but with enough accounts there is no pve that can't be "soloed", or as I call it, multiboxed.

I did my first "solo" C6 in 2009, but these days you do need a bit of an investment for that, like carrier + a couple bs to start with, dreads when you feel comfortable with the risk of being ganked.

C3's you can dualbox quite fast in cheap T1 ships, pre-neuts I tested C5 anoms with two RR domi's and it worked but was slow and high effort with all the drone scooping/repping and stuff. Guess neuts made you need more ships though.
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