EVE General Discussion

This was so 37 seconds ago.



Um, I mean 37 days ago, why bring up old **** again? This thread topic is like a scab and you just gotta keep picking at it.

You do it plenty enough.

gagged so hard Im downloading wow

Came expecting robes and hats. Leaving disappointed.

First, I'd like to note that Heath Ledger killed himself shortly after playing that role, following a period of depression where he stayed in doors and refused to communicate with friends, family, or peers to my knowledge.

That doesn't speak well of the effects of role-acting a clinically insane, twisted freak of nature on the mind of the actor. Less so when that actor delves to deeply into the psyche of the character in an attempt to better understand his motivations and intentions to improve their ability to portray the persona and archetype of that character.

Did you know that Friedrich Nietzsche slowly developed insanity during his career as a writer, delving into the less savory aspects of humankind, their nature, and the nature of Evil. Trying to understand such things isn't always a good idea; particularly if someone is already slightly imbalanced of mind as he was. Of course, it might have just been something in the Ink.

Anyway, on to the topic. Yes, some of us do understand the difference between a character and a persona and the person themselves. It helps if you know the person, but that is not always necessary if you have some video of them like we do of the Mittani.

He was not RPing his character, but rather being himself with regards to his persona. There is nothing to say that he would have said what he did were he not drunk, but reliably, we can say that he said what he did because he was drunk.

The reason we can say that is because he was, and quite often as the Mittani playing in game he is. Similar circumstances allow for similar behaviour; particularly when drunk. It does not mean that he meant it or wishes the person ill, but rather indicates that he was unfettered in his train of thought and acting as he normally would when drunk. That is not the same as being a psychopath.

It is for this reason that it is easy to forgive his actions and even ignore them in there entirity for their simplicity. When drunk, we often do or say things that we do not truly mean, simply for the effect they will have on others or because we believe it is expected of us. We do not have to have the intention of harming others to have the effect of harming others.

In some cases people have a shoddy misconception of appropriateness and behave accordingly with this poorly conceived perception. It is the case with the Mittani and his behaviour is a reflection of the attitudes anbd behaviours common to many an internet gamer amongst his or her peers. If we are around people who behave inappropriately, then it is likely that we will begin to behave inappropriately ourselves.

I could go on, but those who understand this likely already know and those who don't likely never will. It is also very possible that some people hate the Mittani for RP purposes or because he is the Mittani, and for know other reason. Without knowing them individually or having some example of their character we may never know.

On a side note, I'm pretty sure Anthony Hopkins is a cannibal. j/k of course.

The problem with your perspective is that Goonswarm is "Something Awful forums... in space!" It's such an otherworldly group that, if EVE were real, it would be a bigger mystery than the sleepers, or the rogue drones, or what's up with the Sansha, or how are the Jove doing. It's such an otherworldly group that there should be NPC buy orders for Goon corpses, so that NPC scientists can struggle with the question of WTF is causing all these capsuleers who have nothing in common to congregate in this way, and behave as they do.

Perhaps they'd conclude that a Goon is an ASCII penis's way of creating an ASCII penis.

cause there was nothing wrong with them before they did what they did yes?
somehow I think maybe Leger was depressed FIRST and/or had issue BEFORE playing the part. You note how he DIDNT replay part of the Joker where he murdered ppl wantonly and blew up buildings. Nietsche was likely already insane... I doubt writing DROVER him insane.

the above is like saying anyone that played a psycho and then didnt kill ppl in real life afterwards were just lucky -.-
Hell Stephen King should be restrained and dribbling in a bucket by now.



yeah none of those votes were ppl that actually wanted him in. they HAD to all be alts.



no, he was RPing. outrageously so cause he was drunk but still RPing.
Ive RPed Malkavians (and LARPed them) that doesnt make me insane OR homicidal nor do I actually want to drink blood. I did it cause it was fun and NOT me. Thats why I like RPs. To play someone totally UNLIKE me.

Im almost totally the opposite of the person I am in game.

So, EVE is actualy Holywood at its best?
So manny good actors .... - let start giving Oscar for role playing.

observation you disagree with =/= troll attack
but then I expect you to be hammering on the report button every thread by now anyway lol

Cause you know, why argue the point when you can run to CCP

What you fail to understand about my post, is that Heath Ledger was not RPing the Joker when he killed himself. I'm not even saying he did it because he played the Joker, but more making an observation and tying the facts together, (as best I know them), in a fashion that pioints to a possible reason for his actions.

It isn't the maniacal clown that was the issue so much as the contrary nature of the character with Heath Ledgers own character. He delved into something that went against everything he was, burrowed deeply in, and then failed to reconcile who he was with who he had become as a result of this. Or potentially so at any rate.

Nietzsche was neither insane nor crazy at the beginning of his career to the best of my knowledge but slowly became that way. Now, while it is well known that inks in that period often had unpleasant things in them like Mercury, arsenic, and various other things that were harmful to body and mind if ingested, (Not saying specifically those things, but you get the idea), there were many authors of the time who did not suffer insanity over prolonged periods of using them. Not obviously at any rate.

What we do know however, is that many who delve into the supernatural or try to understand the nature of evil or even make a pact with it quite often go insane or lose their minds entirely. Some just go crazy in one fashion or another. This is very common among those who practice witchcraft, various other unmentionable practices, and study to deeply things which were never meant to be understood or simply do not exist.

Nietzsches entire career was centered around subjects such as these and others and it is not hard to believe they were his eventual undoing.

Regardless, I understand that many RPers will vehemently defend what it is they enjoy to do, and you are no exception. I very much doubt you are telling the truth when you emphasize that you and your character are opposites however. People seldom are, though they might be, (and often are), unwilling to admit as much.

That doesn't mean you aren't; it just means that I doubt it.

edit: also, you are far to concerned about peoples perceptions of the Mittani. It is what it is; he only received a temporary ban, and the game goes on as normal with his return. The only real difference is he does not hold the chair for the CSM anymore, which may be as much a relief to him as some of us.

Honestly, I couldn't care either way, but it is a funny thought.