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Tom Sokarad
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-04-30 06:37:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tom Sokarad
Raiz Nhell wrote:
I don't know what is funnier...

The fact that you got banned, or the fact that you've let everyone know it, or the fact that you have stated that you are actively attempting to evade the ban...

And since all your chars got banned and your posting I guess we can add account sharing to your list of violations...

Oh, and overzealous use of the bold function...




im not trying to evade the ban at all, In fact the entire Forums is about if i can create a new account. See because they banned those accounts. but they dont say if you cant create a new one. So i dont know if i should waste more of my time.
Tom Sokarad
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-04-30 06:38:38 UTC
Riley Moore wrote:
Tom Sokarad wrote:
D Program wrote:
Contact CCP support and ask by email.


I figured a company that banned 2 accounts that have not played in 1 week would be to inept to use email. Huh.


CCP's new policy is to ban players, not single accounts. This to prevent people from evading bans by using alts for nefarious purposes.

Stop being a total moron and go away already. And yes, they will keep banning your accounts. Locking this thread.



Could you link me this info?
Amanda Holland
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-04-30 06:38:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Amanda Holland
Riley Moore wrote:
Tom Sokarad wrote:
D Program wrote:
Contact CCP support and ask by email.


I figured a company that banned 2 accounts that have not played in 1 week would be to inept to use email. Huh.


CCP's new policy is to ban players, not single accounts. This to prevent people from evading bans by using alts for nefarious purposes.

Stop being a total moron and go away already. And yes, they will keep banning your accounts. Locking this thread.


your lock failed

Yeah except in the forums... seems they ban players from the forums and not accounts

Tom Sokarad wrote:

im not trying to evade the ban at all,




yet you created a new account, thus evading the ban rofl

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) vroom vroom motorcycle CCP to the sandbox: "This "adapt or die" attitude is nothing new to EVE, but we want to give it a constant rhythm that is a bit more under our control than in the past"
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#24 - 2012-04-30 06:40:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Tom Sokarad wrote:

I really cant say, i swear ALOT but only in corp chat. Dont talk out side corp at all. Still no reason to ban all 3 of my accounts.
Since i play on a college IP, and its fairly popular here (this and starcraft 2) i think its some kind of IP ban thing. But i cant blame CCP, they have millions of people to look after, on no wait they are incompetent haha.


You're going to have to do better than that. I'm in motherfucking TEST, an alliance of retards and ******* lunatics. If cursing all over these ****** boards and dumbass in game channels would get you banned, we wouldn't exist.
Tom Sokarad
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-04-30 06:42:10 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Tom Sokarad wrote:

I really cant say, i swear ALOT but only in corp chat. Dont talk out side corp at all. Still no reason to ban all 3 of my accounts.
Since i play on a college IP, and its fairly popular here (this and starcraft 2) i think its some kind of IP ban thing. But i cant blame CCP, they have millions of people to look after, on no wait they are incompetent haha.


You're going to have to do better than that. I'm in motherfucking TEST, an alliance of retards and ******* lunatics. If cursing all over these ****** boards and dumbass in game channels would get you banned, we wouldn't exist.



i may love you.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-04-30 06:42:56 UTC
Digital Messiah wrote:
The only time CCP takes action like this is when said person is trading isk for money in real life.

that's wrong - there are many other reasons for permabans (e.g. client modifications, exploits, hacking, ... )

specifically

Quote:
3. HARASSMENT

An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if a player:

  • a. Organizes or participates in a corporation or group that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies.

Severe offences may result in an immediate ban without warning; however, warnings may be given for first time offenses, followed by account suspensions of varying degree and ultimately a permanent ban if a player:

  • a. Is abusive, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, ethnically or racially offensive, or threatening to another player or an official EVE Online representative.
  • b. Uses role-playing as an excuse for violating the guidelines regarding fair play with others.
  • c. Sends excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions, petitions with false information or repeatedly petitions under the wrong category in an effort to circumvent the customer support queue.


Linkage

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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-04-30 06:47:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
@OP only way to get a reliable answer your question is to write a petition, posting on the forums about it is literally useless as most people will just give whatever answer they made up on the spot (based on their dislike of "bad" people, without any knowledge of GM policies or comparable cases).

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Tom Sokarad
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-04-30 06:47:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tom Sokarad
Vera Algaert wrote:
Digital Messiah wrote:
The only time CCP takes action like this is when said person is trading isk for money in real life.

that's wrong - there are many other reasons for permabans (e.g. client modifications, exploits, hacking, ... )

specifically

Quote:
3. HARASSMENT

An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if a player:

  • a. Organizes or participates in a corporation or group that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies.

Severe offences may result in an immediate ban without warning; however, warnings may be given for first time offenses, followed by account suspensions of varying degree and ultimately a permanent ban if a player:

  • a. Is abusive, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, ethnically or racially offensive, or threatening to another player or an official EVE Online representative.
  • b. Uses role-playing as an excuse for violating the guidelines regarding fair play with others.
  • c. Sends excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions, petitions with false information or repeatedly petitions under the wrong category in an effort to circumvent the customer support queue.


Linkage





Ahh yes but we must look


An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if a player:
An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if a player is found to be
An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if a player:


Ahh so not only was banning 3 accounts against their SUSPENSION AND BAN POLICY, but it means I can go ahead and make a new account with no problem.

All the best
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#29 - 2012-04-30 06:48:34 UTC
All I can say is: Good work CCP, keep up the current pace and no one will have a shortage of RMT tears.

PS: Its pretty obvious you bought ISK with real money, and im not talking about PLEX

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Tom Sokarad
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-04-30 06:50:10 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
All I can say is: Good work CCP, keep up the current pace and no one will have a shortage of RMT tears.

PS: Its pretty obvious you bought ISK with real money, and im not talking about PLEX




im not going to risk 7 years of work ( oh yes eve is very hard ) when i can buy Plex and not get in trouble
Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#31 - 2012-04-30 06:52:45 UTC
better get in this before a lock comes down

Nothing Personal - Just Business...

Chaos Creates Content
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2012-04-30 06:54:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
Tom Sokarad wrote:
Ahh so not only was banning 3 accounts against their SUSPENSION AND BAN POLICY, but it means I can go ahead and make a new account with no problem.

wow, calm down a bit

here's the relevant part of the EULA

Quote:
B. By CCP for Breach or Misconduct

(1) Suspension of Account

Without limiting CCP's rights or remedies, CCP may immediately, and without notice, discontinue or suspend access to the System through your Account, and any and all other Accounts that share the name, phone number, e-mail address, internet protocol address or credit card number with the discontinued or suspended Account, in the event of (i) a breach of the EULA (including the Rules of Conduct) by you or any user under your Account; or (ii) unauthorized access to the System or use of the Game by you or any user under your Account.

(2) Termination of EULA

CCP may terminate the EULA, close all your Accounts, and cancel all rights granted to you under the EULA if: (i) you fail to pay the fees when due; (ii) CCP is unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide; (iii) you or anyone using any of your Accounts materially breaches the EULA, makes any unauthorized use of the System or Software, or infringes the rights of CCP or any third party; or (iv) CCP becomes aware of game play, chat or player activity under your Account that is, in CCP's discretion, inappropriate, offensive, or in violation of the Rules of Conduct. Such termination shall be effective upon notice transmitted via electronic mail, or any other means reasonably calculated to reach you.

CCP reserves the right to terminate any and all other Accounts that share the name, phone number, e-mail address, internet protocol address or credit card number with the closed Account. Termination by CCP under this section shall be without prejudice to or waiver of any and all of CCP's other rights or remedies, all of which are expressly reserved, survive termination, and are cumulative. You will not be entitled to receive a refund of fees for a termination pursuant to this section.


as I said, the only way to clear this issue is to ask via petition

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Tom Sokarad
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2012-04-30 06:56:39 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Tom Sokarad wrote:
Ahh so not only was banning 3 accounts against their SUSPENSION AND BAN POLICY, but it means I can go ahead and make a new account with no problem.

wow, calm down a bit

here's the relevant part of the EULA

Quote:
B. By CCP for Breach or Misconduct

(1) Suspension of Account

Without limiting CCP's rights or remedies, CCP may immediately, and without notice, discontinue or suspend access to the System through your Account, and any and all other Accounts that share the name, phone number, e-mail address, internet protocol address or credit card number with the discontinued or suspended Account, in the event of (i) a breach of the EULA (including the Rules of Conduct) by you or any user under your Account; or (ii) unauthorized access to the System or use of the Game by you or any user under your Account.

(2) Termination of EULA

CCP may terminate the EULA, close all your Accounts, and cancel all rights granted to you under the EULA if: (i) you fail to pay the fees when due; (ii) CCP is unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide; (iii) you or anyone using any of your Accounts materially breaches the EULA, makes any unauthorized use of the System or Software, or infringes the rights of CCP or any third party; or (iv) CCP becomes aware of game play, chat or player activity under your Account that is, in CCP's discretion, inappropriate, offensive, or in violation of the Rules of Conduct. Such termination shall be effective upon notice transmitted via electronic mail, or any other means reasonably calculated to reach you.

CCP reserves the right to terminate any and all other Accounts that share the name, phone number, e-mail address, internet protocol address or credit card number with the closed Account. Termination by CCP under this section shall be without prejudice to or waiver of any and all of CCP's other rights or remedies, all of which are expressly reserved, survive termination, and are cumulative. You will not be entitled to receive a refund of fees for a termination pursuant to this section.


as I said, the only way to clear this issue is to ask via petition




Rats. But thank you very much. Just the info i was looking for.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#34 - 2012-04-30 06:56:56 UTC
Tom Sokarad wrote:
Riley Moore wrote:
Tom Sokarad wrote:
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
They don't ban characters, they ban players. Everything with your name on it will get banned, since your attemps are basicly just attempts to evade the ban.




So your saying if i create a new account it will be banned as well?



Yes. They don't ban for swearing. Stop lying and go away.




Im not here to talk about why i was banned, the question is. "If i create a new account will it be banned?"


It looks like you've already created a new account. If you keep trying to get around your ban they will perform what is called a "hardware ban" on you, where the only way to get online will be to totally replace your network infrastructure, from your internet provider all the way down to your computer. And even then they'd still just reban your new hardware.

Trust us all, dude, more obsessive people than you have tried.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Amanda Holland
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-04-30 06:58:56 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
@OP only way to get a reliable answer your question is to write a petition, posting on the forums about it is literally useless as most people will just give whatever answer they made up on the spot (based on their dislike of "bad" people, without any knowledge of GM policies or comparable cases).


and itll just get you reported and likely banned again

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) vroom vroom motorcycle CCP to the sandbox: "This "adapt or die" attitude is nothing new to EVE, but we want to give it a constant rhythm that is a bit more under our control than in the past"
Tom Sokarad
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2012-04-30 06:58:57 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Tom Sokarad wrote:
Riley Moore wrote:
Tom Sokarad wrote:
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
They don't ban characters, they ban players. Everything with your name on it will get banned, since your attemps are basicly just attempts to evade the ban.




So your saying if i create a new account it will be banned as well?



Yes. They don't ban for swearing. Stop lying and go away.




Im not here to talk about why i was banned, the question is. "If i create a new account will it be banned?"


It looks like you've already created a new account. If you keep trying to get around your ban they will perform what is called a "hardware ban" on you, where the only way to get online will be to totally replace your network infrastructure, from your internet provider all the way down to your computer. And even then they'd still just reban your new hardware.

Trust us all, dude, more obsessive people than you have tried.



Thats all i wanted to know, if the ban was me as a person. Or just my accounts. Thanks
Amanda Holland
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-04-30 07:01:04 UTC
Tom Sokarad wrote:
ACE McFACE wrote:
All I can say is: Good work CCP, keep up the current pace and no one will have a shortage of RMT tears.

PS: Its pretty obvious you bought ISK with real money, and im not talking about PLEX




im not going to risk 7 years of work ( oh yes eve is very hard ) when i can buy Plex and not get in trouble


apparently you did tho... lol

Think Ill get in trouble for reporting the OP as just stupid for posting that he is evading a ban ON THE FORUMS?

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) vroom vroom motorcycle CCP to the sandbox: "This "adapt or die" attitude is nothing new to EVE, but we want to give it a constant rhythm that is a bit more under our control than in the past"
Tom Sokarad
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-04-30 07:01:46 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Tom Sokarad wrote:
Riley Moore wrote:
Tom Sokarad wrote:
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
They don't ban characters, they ban players. Everything with your name on it will get banned, since your attemps are basicly just attempts to evade the ban.




So your saying if i create a new account it will be banned as well?



Yes. They don't ban for swearing. Stop lying and go away.




Im not here to talk about why i was banned, the question is. "If i create a new account will it be banned?"


It looks like you've already created a new account. If you keep trying to get around your ban they will perform what is called a "hardware ban" on you, where the only way to get online will be to totally replace your network infrastructure, from your internet provider all the way down to your computer. And even then they'd still just reban your new hardware.

Trust us all, dude, more obsessive people than you have tried.



oh well going to call EVE quits, 7 years with 3 accounts is 3780$ plus about 500$ in plex. Without a warning or anything. I feel cheated.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#39 - 2012-04-30 07:02:07 UTC
Tom Sokarad wrote:



Thats all i wanted to know, if the ban was me as a person. Or just my accounts. Thanks


It's you. CCP banned you because you are a terrible person.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Amanda Holland
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-04-30 07:02:33 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Tom Sokarad wrote:
Ahh so not only was banning 3 accounts against their SUSPENSION AND BAN POLICY, but it means I can go ahead and make a new account with no problem.

wow, calm down a bit

here's the relevant part of the EULA

Quote:
B. By CCP for Breach or Misconduct

(1) Suspension of Account

Without limiting CCP's rights or remedies, CCP may immediately, and without notice, discontinue or suspend access to the System through your Account, and any and all other Accounts that share the name, phone number, e-mail address, internet protocol address or credit card number with the discontinued or suspended Account, in the event of (i) a breach of the EULA (including the Rules of Conduct) by you or any user under your Account; or (ii) unauthorized access to the System or use of the Game by you or any user under your Account.

(2) Termination of EULA

CCP may terminate the EULA, close all your Accounts, and cancel all rights granted to you under the EULA if: (i) you fail to pay the fees when due; (ii) CCP is unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide; (iii) you or anyone using any of your Accounts materially breaches the EULA, makes any unauthorized use of the System or Software, or infringes the rights of CCP or any third party; or (iv) CCP becomes aware of game play, chat or player activity under your Account that is, in CCP's discretion, inappropriate, offensive, or in violation of the Rules of Conduct. Such termination shall be effective upon notice transmitted via electronic mail, or any other means reasonably calculated to reach you.

CCP reserves the right to terminate any and all other Accounts that share the name, phone number, e-mail address, internet protocol address or credit card number with the closed Account. Termination by CCP under this section shall be without prejudice to or waiver of any and all of CCP's other rights or remedies, all of which are expressly reserved, survive termination, and are cumulative. You will not be entitled to receive a refund of fees for a termination pursuant to this section.


as I said, the only way to clear this issue is to ask via petition


post the "we can ban you at any time for any reason part so he doesnt feel justified in saying they were wrong for doing it lol

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) vroom vroom motorcycle CCP to the sandbox: "This "adapt or die" attitude is nothing new to EVE, but we want to give it a constant rhythm that is a bit more under our control than in the past"