Wormholes

In w-space people **do** use probes, they **do** use DS, and they also **do** use bubbles. Not clear, otherwise, what you might actually be asking.

It’s not really a case of “DS over Probes”. They both have benefits and disadvantages, alongside using the system scanner without probes. Using all three, and choosing what to use in which situation, equips you with a powerful suite of detection and location tools.

The DS is entirely undetectable so you can watch without being seen. That is a fantastic ‘pro’. The cons of the DS include its limited range (managed by selecting where you DS from) and inability to provide warp-to locations on ships or comic signatures.

Probes can be seen on DS if they’re in range. Although I regularly monitor systems by placing a single deep-space probe way off out in deep space and setting it to 256AU, that way it’s only potentially visible for the few seconds it takes me to set it up and the fraction of a second when/if I recall it. Probes, however, do allow you to establish warpable locations for ships and for cosmic signatures.

Using the system scanner without probes is also undetectable, and will provide you with warpable bookmarks for the cosmic anomalies that are within range. Like the DS, though, it will not provide warpable bookmarks for ships or cosmic anomalies.

The only way (short of being in a fleet with them) to warp to a ship in space or in a cosmic signature is to use probes to locate either the ship or the cosmic signature. A ship in a cosmic anomaly can be found without the use of probes, by locating the anomaly with your system scanner. Often the DS can be used to sort out which anomaly they’re at, by checking at different distances and cross referring to the system scanner output.

Similarly you can find POSes, and ships at POSes, solely by the use of your DS … without dropping a single probe to give yourself away.

Hey, thanks for the confirmation ... altho I doubt many ppl'd think I was making that bit up



Not sure which system that might be, but we do get to visit lots and lots and are usually camping several at any one time.

If we did have ppl in your system they would prolly be doing that if they were hunting, gathering opposing force data, or watching for habits. If they were hunting for kills they'd prolly have worked out your quiet times and scanned the sigs / anoms then, and would only drop a single deep space probe, way out in deep space, while you're active.
If they were harrassing they'd prolly be putting the probes in close, within the confines of the system, so you could see them on DS. The w-space equivalent to an afk cloaky in sov null, but only good for an hour at a time.

In the first case they'd be not wanting to be 'seen' . In the second they'd be wanting their presence to be known, but their exact activities and purpose not.

For those interested in more on d-scanning and how it can save your bum in a hole, check the d-scan thread in this subforum.