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Renaming "Carebears" to "Hardbears".

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Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-29 20:00:37 UTC
Ganking hi-sec players (miners, mission runners, etc) has become a sport, complete with prizes and private, alliance sponsored insurance payouts for ships lost in the process. The fact is if you're in a Hulk or any type of hauler, you are automatically a target and you have almost no way to defend yourself. There are more ships destroyed in hi-sec on any given day than null-sec and low-sec combined.

For this reason, I am moving to rename "carebears" to "hardbears" and renaming "nullbears" to "carebears".
Lexmana
#2 - 2012-04-29 20:07:16 UTC
Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead?
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-04-29 20:09:09 UTC
npc corp self-esteem building thread
Ai Shun
#4 - 2012-04-29 20:13:33 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
npc corp self-esteem building thread


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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#5 - 2012-04-29 20:19:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Ways to defend yourself without actually doing anything at all 101


  • Don't haul or fly what you can't afford to lose, getting ganked is a risk you accept when you hit undock, carebear or not.

  • If you can't afford to lose it, freight it with someone like redfrog or pushx, it gets ganked you keep the collateral Bear

  • Insure your mission ships and haulers, any financial payback reduces the hit on your wallet.

  • Pimp fits are the equivalent to painting a target on your back, the man in his Artybaddon or Tornado loves your pimp fit tengus, they go squish and drop good loot.Pirate

  • If war decced, don't carry on as normal Roll, you'll probably have 3 choices if crimewatch gets updated, hire mercs, fight them yourself with some allies, blueball the aggressor by playing on an out of corp alt until he gets bored.

  • If you're a miner, fly a retriever for the next month, they're cheaper than hulks, mine in a battleship whatever, just don't mine in an untanked max yield hulk, it's going to die.Pirate

  • I'm a hisec trader/missioner I follow the above and have rarely been popped unless I've done something daft. like accidentally APing into losec, never used the damn thing since.

    Chances that 90% of the next months whine threads come from people that can't follow simple rules? 100%

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    Vanishing Point.
    The Initiative.
    #6 - 2012-04-29 20:26:04 UTC
    Jacob Staffuer wrote:
    Ganking hi-sec players (miners, mission runners, etc) has become a sport, complete with prizes and private, alliance sponsored insurance payouts for ships lost in the process. The fact is if you're in a Hulk or any type of hauler, you are automatically a target and you have almost no way to defend yourself. There are more ships destroyed in hi-sec on any given day than null-sec and low-sec combined.

    For this reason, I am moving to rename "carebears" to "hardbears" and renaming "nullbears" to "carebears".



    Obvious goon alt etc

    "Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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    Krios Ahzek
    Royal Amarr Institute
    Amarr Empire
    #7 - 2012-04-29 20:27:25 UTC
    Hang out in the ''safe'' space where you are not allowed to shoot first in order to defend yourself.
    Somehow convince yourself that this makes you hardcore.

     Though All Men Do Despise Us

    Jastra
    The Scope
    Gallente Federation
    #8 - 2012-04-29 20:34:16 UTC
    Jacob Staffuer wrote:
    Ganking hi-sec players (miners, mission runners, etc) has become a sport, complete with prizes and private, alliance sponsored insurance payouts for ships lost in the process. The fact is if you're in a Hulk or any type of hauler, you are automatically a target and you have almost no way to defend yourself. There are more ships destroyed in hi-sec on any given day than null-sec and low-sec combined.

    For this reason, I am moving to rename "carebears" to "hardbears" and renaming "nullbears" to "carebears".


    I really wish you would stop posting, did you lose something valuable this weekend, go and take a walk outside in the fresh air
    Simi Kusoni
    HelloKittyFanclub
    #9 - 2012-04-29 20:46:26 UTC
    I am a care bear. I live in syndicate.

    You high sec scrubs should come up and visit some time if you think you're hard core.

    [center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

    Blobber NL
    Deep Core Mining Inc.
    Caldari State
    #10 - 2012-04-29 20:54:51 UTC
    Lexmana wrote:
    Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead?



    For null/lowsec? For so far i can read on this forum the most whine comes from null/lowsec players.
    Simi Kusoni
    HelloKittyFanclub
    #11 - 2012-04-29 20:59:11 UTC
    Blobber NL wrote:
    Lexmana wrote:
    Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead?



    For null/lowsec? For so far i can read on this forum the most whine comes from null/lowsec players.

    Then you obviously never click on the buff hulks threads.

    [center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

    Vaal Erit
    Science and Trade Institute
    Caldari State
    #12 - 2012-04-29 21:13:17 UTC
    Sticks and stones and CONCORD may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
    Karl Hobb
    Imperial Margarine
    #13 - 2012-04-29 21:24:00 UTC
    Jacob Staffuer wrote:
    For this reason, I am moving to rename "carebears" to "hardbears" and renaming "nullbears" to "carebears".

    Arique, Indawahwah, Mr. Epeen... adding Jacob Staffuer to the pile of idiot posters.

    A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

    Blobber NL
    Deep Core Mining Inc.
    Caldari State
    #14 - 2012-04-29 21:28:42 UTC
    Simi Kusoni wrote:
    Blobber NL wrote:
    Lexmana wrote:
    Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead?



    For null/lowsec? For so far i can read on this forum the most whine comes from null/lowsec players.

    Then you obviously never click on the buff hulks threads.


    hulk tears are so ... dusty. So nope..
    Fredfredbug4
    The Scope
    Gallente Federation
    #15 - 2012-04-29 21:31:23 UTC
    That term won't be appropriate until carebears not only stop whining, but actually try to get suicide ganking buffed.

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    Garnoo
    Eternity INC.
    Goonswarm Federation
    #16 - 2012-04-29 21:41:45 UTC
    why would they be a "hardbears"? all they do is dying..... its not so hard :)

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    Simi Kusoni
    HelloKittyFanclub
    #17 - 2012-04-29 21:45:50 UTC
    Fredfredbug4 wrote:
    That term won't be appropriate until carebears not only stop whining, but actually try to get suicide ganking buffed.

    Screw suicide ganking, it's a lost cause and only useful for the odd indie/hulk kill. Killing anything decent with suicide ganking is both boring and, usually, unprofitable. Its a stupid mechanic that has only become such a big "issue" because high sec care bears have been successful in eliminating virtually every other form of non-consensual PvP.

    I say nerf their ability to avoid war decs, then nerf high sec into the ground. In every other game guards exist only to protect newbie areas and trade hubs, if high sec care bears want to live in a police-enforced newbie area they should be willing to accept that that involves making **** all ISK.

    Oh, and when we're done with that we should nerf local, replace it with an Intel tool, and then start destroying logistics chains. Starting with a very serious look at jump freighters, the use of carriers as a personal logistics asset and nullified t3s.

    If we can get all that crap addressed, and suppress the screams of these "hard core" idiots then maybe making ISK in this game would become fun again. Because at the moment its a mindless grind, and even in null sec there is so little danger its laughable.

    [center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

    Barakach
    Caldari Provisions
    Caldari State
    #18 - 2012-04-29 21:47:09 UTC
    Lexmana wrote:
    Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead?


    Because nullbears don't like it when we point out they keep whining about highsec.
    Polly Oxford
    Deep Core Mining Inc.
    Caldari State
    #19 - 2012-04-29 21:49:33 UTC
    Maybe you could just leave your furry terms completely out of this game.
    Weaselior
    GoonWaffe
    Goonswarm Federation
    #20 - 2012-04-29 22:01:45 UTC
    Barakach wrote:
    Lexmana wrote:
    Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead?


    Because nullbears don't like it when we point out they keep whining about highsec.

    we care about your opinions only to the extent we can laugh at them

    Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

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