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What is Mystic Sensualism?

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ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#61 - 2012-04-29 15:36:03 UTC
Rek Jaiga wrote:
Valentina, I am sorry if I led you on. You know why I can't be with you. You're a sweet girl but you're just so....fanatic! I can't stand behind what you do.

I want to marry within the Tribe. Have a nice, cozy little place, enough kredits to not worry. Stay home and raise some little ones!


If i were a True Fanatic, I would have sent you a box of chocolates laced with some nanites that would have you changing your tune about the Nation... But I have faith in people and yes even you, and besides it isn't like the master gives me accessed to such technology, and if he did, I wouldn't admit to it.

In the end though, it is what it is, I have no luck with men. Perhaps, I am incompetent at picking them or perhaps they aren't worthwhile to date, and i can see where it is easier to just blame them with a blanket accusation that they are this or that negative way. Perhaps I am just feeling like that because it is easier than blaming myself.

For what it is worth Rek, I wish you luck. To everyone else, if i send you something it is safe to eat I assure you.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2012-04-29 16:54:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Halete
Honestly, I think that we may be onto something with this whole 'baseliner dating' thing.

That said, I don't go baselining if I can avoid it and certainly wouldn't last in such a relationship myself, but there's just nothing attractive about a man whose ass I can kick which I think nicely includes at least 99% of the male Capsuleer population.

... And I'm not talking about dogfighting, either.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#63 - 2012-04-29 18:49:48 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
This mystic sensualism sounds a lot like pagan debauchery to me.


Mystic sensualism sounds not at all mystic or religious to me and therefore neither really pagan.
Simca Develon
Doomheim
#64 - 2012-04-29 19:21:24 UTC
Halete wrote:
there's just nothing attractive about a man whose ass I can kick which I think nicely includes at least 99% of the male Capsuleer population.

... And I'm not talking about dogfighting, either.


Somehow I'm having a hard time believing this. My guess is that your bark is much worse than your bite.

Je suis le commencement de votre fin.

Le diable prend soin de son proper.
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#65 - 2012-04-29 20:08:17 UTC
Simca Develon wrote:
Halete wrote:
there's just nothing attractive about a man whose ass I can kick which I think nicely includes at least 99% of the male Capsuleer population.

... And I'm not talking about dogfighting, either.


Somehow I'm having a hard time believing this. My guess is that your bark is much worse than your bite.


No, no, encourage her! I'd love to see her box Verone.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

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Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#66 - 2012-04-29 22:28:38 UTC
Kalaratiri wrote:
Simca Develon wrote:
Halete wrote:
there's just nothing attractive about a man whose ass I can kick which I think nicely includes at least 99% of the male Capsuleer population.

... And I'm not talking about dogfighting, either.


Somehow I'm having a hard time believing this. My guess is that your bark is much worse than your bite.


No, no, encourage her! I'd love to see her box Verone.


Or Hakatain-haan. That would be amusing.

Katrina Oniseki
Unit XS365BT
Unit Commune
#67 - 2012-04-30 00:08:12 UTC
Halete wrote:
Honestly, I think that we may be onto something with this whole 'baseliner dating' thing.



Truly?
Could you truly love someone you knew you would outlive by decades, if not centuries?
Could you watch them grow old and die? Could you watch your children and theirs do the same?
Mera......

Unit XS365BT Online.

We Return.

Unit XS365BT. Designated Communications Officer. Unit Commune.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2012-04-30 05:16:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Halete
I'm a little confused at where all of this doubt is coming from considering that I'm all but unknown in the Capsuleer community, but I would love if I were extended a spar by any of the above. Even so, supposing I were defeated, then clearly we've found males in the 1%, no?

I don't mean to boast, I'm merely saying that if I were dating a man I would at least want a strong man. I didn't think that was such a ludicrous thing to suggest. I don't think that anyone in my Corporation, including our most prominent male member, would attest to by 'bark being worse than my bite'.

Unit XS365BT wrote:
Halete wrote:
Honestly, I think that we may be onto something with this whole 'baseliner dating' thing.



Truly?
Could you truly love someone you knew you would outlive by decades, if not centuries?
Could you watch them grow old and die? Could you watch your children and theirs do the same?
Mera......

Unit XS365BT Online.

We Return.


Could I?

Yes.

Is it something I would readily do?

No.

Hence why I personally couldn't see through that type of relationship. The detach is just too strong for me. But I don't have anything against it whatsoever and hope that anyone in such a relationship is happy.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Simca Develon
Doomheim
#69 - 2012-04-30 05:55:54 UTC
Halete wrote:


I don't mean to boast, I'm merely saying that if I were dating a man I would at least want a strong man. I didn't think that was such a ludicrous thing to suggest. I don't think that anyone in my Corporation, including our most prominent male member, would attest to by 'bark being worse than my bite'.



Wanting a strong man is completely understandable. Saying you can kick the ass of 99% of the male capsuleers seems more like grandstanding to me.

Je suis le commencement de votre fin.

Le diable prend soin de son proper.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#70 - 2012-04-30 06:02:40 UTC
Simca Develon wrote:


Wanting a strong man is completely understandable. Saying you can kick the ass of 99% of the male capsuleers seems more like grandstanding to me.


Ah, okay. In that case, I sincerely apologize for using what I thought was blatant sensationalism. I really wasn't attempting to provoke that type of response or paint myself to be anything that I'm not.

Point is, I find that many of the physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually integral men are baseliners. Plenty of Capsuleer men exist that have a few of these traits - it would be ridiculous for me to state otherwise. Indeed, I am sure there are many that get large ticks in all four boxes - but they don't compete with the numbers of female Capsuleers that would seek a relationship with one of their male peers.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#71 - 2012-04-30 06:06:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Halete wrote:

Point is, I find that many of the physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually integral men are baseliners. Plenty of Capsuleer men exist that have a few of these traits - it would be ridiculous for me to state otherwise.


Agreed. My theory is the capsule has some sort of psychological effect on men, causing a shift toward aggressive primal tendencies so affectionately termed "psychotic idiot". I'm sure females suffer a similar issue, which likely explains why so many Capsuleer women act like baseliner men instead of a proper lady... myself included.

Katrina Oniseki
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2012-04-30 06:13:14 UTC
I think that there is a lot of merit in that theory. I, for one, will admit that I might not be the most couth lady to have ever walked Matar, but Capsuleer life has certainly only aggravated certain less pleasant qualities of my psyche and therefore my conduct.

Now that I'm actually opening up more to the idea of baselining or even talking to my fellow Capsuleers in an environment where we can do so face-to-face, I'm already feeling a marked improvement.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#73 - 2012-04-30 07:42:26 UTC
Ladies; if you are under the impression that female capsuleers are immune to the (very clearly existing) capsuleer psychological effects, you need to take a close look into the mirror and maybe talk to a spiritual adviser / psychological counselor / insert culturally appropriate equivalent here.

Seriously.

How deluded you have to be to think you are protected based on your gender alone? Or that all men are prone based on theirs? This is not a gender issue, it is an issue of personal integrity. I am sorry if your close associates in space do not include good men, but maybe with the way you speak about them you need to consider if you have something to do about it yourself.

Elsebeth
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#74 - 2012-04-30 08:04:48 UTC
I'm certainly glad that you decided to call people delusional before reading that those of us here have only admitted to being influenced by the same effects, quite contrary from being 'protected'.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#75 - 2012-04-30 08:07:44 UTC
Well, if you too are affected, what was the point of stressing that men are? It all sounded a lot like "men go crazy in the pod, well sure it affects me some too but..." to me.

If I was a good man, I am not sure I was interested in dating someone with that kind of an attitude towards me.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#76 - 2012-04-30 08:27:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Halete
I believe that someone made the comment of how there exists the epidemic of 'Space Lesbians'. From there the Thread divulged into a female perspective of why the epidemice exists, hence I think it is quite apparent why you're getting that tone from the thread, especially with the ratio of women responding.

Women most certainly aren't excluded from the psychological effects of being a pod pilot, but I also think that it's naive to think that there is no disparity between men and women. It looks like female capsuleers are having no problems pairing off with each other.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#77 - 2012-04-30 09:10:09 UTC
Thinking of the pairs I am aware of, describing them as the ones "not having problems" does not really seem to be realistic.

This whole thing also gives the idea that one can just decide to be lesbian if no good men are available. Don't know about the rest of you guys, but that's not how it works for me...
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2012-04-30 09:20:22 UTC
Just a turn of phrase. I am aware that said relationships have as many difficulties as any.

I can't comment on the latter remark, as I'm in the same boat. I don't choose to be heterosexual - I just am.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Rek Jaiga
Teraa Matar
#79 - 2012-04-30 11:05:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Jaiga
I'm not even sure why people, especially us, bother to cling to any particularly strong notion of physical identity. Has being infomorphs not cast aside such notions? Have we learned nothing from the dream-walk? A shame, truly.

I joyfully await the day such silliness is behind us and our souls can dance together.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#80 - 2012-04-30 11:31:32 UTC
Not all of us cut Mindflood with Blue Pill.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21