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Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-04-29 18:24:14 UTC
With EVE as economically focused as it is, I'm sure there are others who like playing in the stock market. I'm just getting started myself, but I've been pretty solid so far.

What are you guys investing in these days? Any advice? Stocks you're watching?

Occasionally plays sober

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-04-29 23:59:30 UTC
Waffles! Buy waffles!!!!

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny

Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-04-30 00:01:03 UTC
I keep all I have outside the stock market. But arms and child labor are usually big winners in the stock market.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#4 - 2012-04-30 05:19:48 UTC
I've heard good things about the conservative sandwich heavy portfolio.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-04-30 07:12:17 UTC  |  Edited by: VKhaun Vex
I work for Under Armour and we are some bad mother *******.

Buy our stock because we are going up steady, and more importantly it has a floor. Even if UA passes over as a fad, it didn't start as some random clothing company we build products that do things for athletes. Even if some other brand comes along or makes a come back and UA isn't one of the most popular, people will always come back to it because of the materials that really do keep people cooler/warmer as advertised. We wouldn't die out over night like Tommy whatshisname and we could always make a comeback since pro Athletes will want to wear our stuff anyway.

I heard about a lady at my building who has been with us since the beginning who signed up for the thing to buy a stock with every other pay check and she didn't realize it. Originally it was like sixteen bucks. I heard she went to HR to complain about this mysterious deduction that had gotten out of hand and reached almost a hundred dollars and found out she had an account full of stocks that had been splitting and going up in value that she had no knowledge of, haha.

Charges Twilight fans with Ka-bar -Surfin's PlunderBunny LIIIIIIIIIIINNEEEEE PIIIEEEECCCCEEE!!!!!!! -Taedrin Using relativity to irrational numbers is smart -rodyas I no longer believe we landed on the moon. -Atticus Fynch

Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-05-01 17:57:01 UTC
Alright, so based on responses the portfolio is now as follows:

@Surfin: Waffles are delicious. Eggo.
@Sidus: Combined your suggestions. Nerf.
@Bane: Taken literally. Subway AND Quiznos.
@VKhaun: $98 a share, from $77 in Jan. Wow.

Occasionally plays sober

Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#7 - 2012-05-02 02:17:29 UTC
I'm interested in the stock market, but know almost next to nothing about it :(

There should be a rather awesome pic here

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#8 - 2012-05-02 03:09:09 UTC
Copine Callmeknau wrote:
I'm interested in the stock market, but know almost next to nothing about it :(


It's like betting on horses, only there's math.

In all seriousness, i'd recommend investing in something relating to radiation management or measurement. That's going to be a big issue next year.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-05-02 14:44:56 UTC
Copine Callmeknau wrote:
I'm interested in the stock market, but know almost next to nothing about it :(


Obviously I'm no expert, but:

You are buying/selling partial ownership of a company, measured in shares. There's no actual set price. It's more or less an average of how much investors are buying and selling the stock at the time.

But that's the tricky part. The value of a stock isn't based on how well a company is doing. It's based on how well investors think it's doing.

If you want to try it out in EVE, consider this: With Inferno coming we're going to see new missile effects. It won't change the functionality of the missiles at all, but it will increase in value for the players (investors) regardless, because it's all about perceived value. If I were able to log in, I might be buying Drake and Raven BPOs, as well as the primary minerals used to make said ships. Maybe some launchers too.

Thus I would be buying "shares" of those items based on the belief that those shares will increase in value, that I can then sell.

Occasionally plays sober

Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#10 - 2012-05-03 20:27:23 UTC
Jett0 wrote:
Copine Callmeknau wrote:
I'm interested in the stock market, but know almost next to nothing about it :(


Obviously I'm no expert, but:

You are buying/selling partial ownership of a company, measured in shares. There's no actual set price. It's more or less an average of how much investors are buying and selling the stock at the time.

But that's the tricky part. The value of a stock isn't based on how well a company is doing. It's based on how well investors think it's doing.

If you want to try it out in EVE, consider this: With Inferno coming we're going to see new missile effects. It won't change the functionality of the missiles at all, but it will increase in value for the players (investors) regardless, because it's all about perceived value. If I were able to log in, I might be buying Drake and Raven BPOs, as well as the primary minerals used to make said ships. Maybe some launchers too.

Thus I would be buying "shares" of those items based on the belief that those shares will increase in value, that I can then sell.

haha, yeh I know the thoery behind it, I should've said I have no practical experience with it.

For instance, say I wanted to unload a whole lot of shares in australia to generate some capital for an IPO in america, how would I go about that?

There should be a rather awesome pic here

Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-05-03 21:17:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jett0
Try this then:

Facebook is about to go public. Now, their insiders have been trading shares for a few months now. Wait for a year, and then see what they're worth. See if they're at a price you consider low for Facebook, then get in.

Occasionally plays sober

Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#12 - 2012-05-03 22:03:39 UTC
Yeh you're not quite getting me.

I understand what makes a decent stock, and have a few companies picked out that I'd like to invest in

What I don't understand is the actual process involved in turning money into stocks, and then back again. Or how to buy stocks on international exchanges.

There should be a rather awesome pic here

Arik VanClaw
The Emet Corporation
#13 - 2012-05-03 22:24:02 UTC
Anybody know how I get to be one of those "insiders" that the game is rigged for?

If I'm going to gamble I prefer Craps.
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-05-04 15:31:27 UTC
If you're in the U.S., invest in rifle and pistol ammunition. The prices are still skyrocketing. There's some kind of armageddon or zombie invasion scare going on.... P
Cierejai
Biofuel Productions
#15 - 2012-05-04 16:37:09 UTC
Invest in gold, none of the experts says its a big speculative bubble.

But make sure you don't physically hold the gold, get a piece of paper that says you own it.

The demand for jewelry and high end electronics is keeping the price high, the recession is a lie.
Boses
Enka Syndicate
#16 - 2012-05-04 17:24:35 UTC
Copine Callmeknau wrote:
Yeh you're not quite getting me.

I understand what makes a decent stock, and have a few companies picked out that I'd like to invest in

What I don't understand is the actual process involved in turning money into stocks, and then back again. Or how to buy stocks on international exchanges.


Copine Callmeknau All a stock is, is a piece of paper that gives you a share of the ownership of a company. What happens is when you go to buy a stock, chances are you are purchasing it from someone who already owned it, and not the company. They will sell you the shares at whatever the current price is, and ownership is then transferred to you. The amount of people willing to buy and sell creates what is the market's liquidity. Lets say you bought Walmart at $20 a share, price went up to $28 a share, and you wanted to sell it. You would then create a sell order, and anyone participating in the market could/would buy it from you at the going price ($28 a share). If you want to purchase stocks on an international exchange (I assume you mean the DAX, or FTSE. Not the foreign exchange) then you just need to open an account with a broker that will allow you to trade stocks on those indices.

I'm not sure if I answered your questions or just wasted your time! haha I hope I helped though.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#17 - 2012-05-04 18:43:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Bane Necran
Cierejai wrote:
Invest in gold


I was so close to investing heavily in gold when it was at 800, then i talked myself out of it. I now grimace every time i see it continue to rise.

Hard assets are the most secure, by far, but i don't think gold is going to double again.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#18 - 2012-05-04 23:22:45 UTC
Boses wrote:
you just need to open an account with a broker that will allow you to trade stocks on those indices.

I'm not sure if I answered your questions or just wasted your time! haha I hope I helped though.

That would have sufficed lol

So basically to do anything I need to find a stock broker and pay them lots of money to buy waffles?
Sounds terrible.

How do I get rid of stocks I currently hold? I had some gifted to me a few years ago haha

There should be a rather awesome pic here

Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-05-04 23:36:12 UTC
Brokerage services aren't too bad. You have to shop around to find what suits you best.

Right now I go through USAA for the retirement account, and ChoiceTrade for the general stuff. Flat $5 commission per trade, and they don't screw you over on the penny stocks.

As for what you hold, how did you receive them? Do you have actual paper, or was this digital?

Occasionally plays sober

Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-05-04 23:41:23 UTC
Cierejai wrote:
Invest in gold, none of the experts says its a big speculative bubble.

But make sure you don't physically hold the gold, get a piece of paper that says you own it.

The demand for jewelry and high end electronics is keeping the price high, the recession is a lie.


I'll be honest, the commodities market scares me. I don't understand what causes the value to go up and down, so it's hard to form an exit strategy.

Occasionally plays sober

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