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Fair Warning: Hulkageddon V Backlash Predicted

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Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#121 - 2012-04-29 16:12:00 UTC
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
You people are so obtuse. Even rats know when their ship is sinking.

After the incoming nerfs, I will bump this thread with great glee.


You still seem pretty mad, bro. Perhaps you should go do a victory lap in Jita in your freighter. Be sure to fill it with as much expensive stuff as you can beforehand. That'll show us Goons.
Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#122 - 2012-04-29 16:17:28 UTC
Xython wrote:
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
You people are so obtuse. Even rats know when their ship is sinking.

After the incoming nerfs, I will bump this thread with great glee.


You still seem pretty mad, bro. Perhaps you should go do a victory lap in Jita in your freighter. Be sure to fill it with as much expensive stuff as you can beforehand. That'll show us Goons.


You seem pretty mad, bro. Perhaps you should post some more words. That'll show us.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#123 - 2012-04-29 16:19:33 UTC
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
Xython wrote:
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
You people are so obtuse. Even rats know when their ship is sinking.

After the incoming nerfs, I will bump this thread with great glee.


You still seem pretty mad, bro. Perhaps you should go do a victory lap in Jita in your freighter. Be sure to fill it with as much expensive stuff as you can beforehand. That'll show us Goons.


You seem pretty mad, bro. Perhaps you should post some more words. That'll show us.


Nah, best not to feed the trolls, even when they're cute widdle ones like you. :)
Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#124 - 2012-04-29 16:22:48 UTC
Xython wrote:
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
Xython wrote:
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
You people are so obtuse. Even rats know when their ship is sinking.

After the incoming nerfs, I will bump this thread with great glee.


You still seem pretty mad, bro. Perhaps you should go do a victory lap in Jita in your freighter. Be sure to fill it with as much expensive stuff as you can beforehand. That'll show us Goons.


You seem pretty mad, bro. Perhaps you should post some more words. That'll show us.


Nah, best not to feed the trolls, even when they're cute widdle ones like you. :)


Still mad, broh? Try being condescending, that'll show us who's boss!
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#125 - 2012-04-29 16:25:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Alain Kinsella wrote:
Just ban Exhumers from High-Sec and be done with it already. You can then tweak them for proper tanks without making them overshadow mining in High.

I'll admit it would be an interesting 'backlash' - is it a nerf? I'm not so sure. It's certainly in line with CCPs stated goals of getting more industry out to Null.

It would also make Hulkageddon an interesting sport. Suddenly the miners can shoot back. Pirate



High Sec Bears will never go to null.

Hulks can fit no turrets or launchers so the comment about miners shooting back is idiotic.

Your knucklehead idea would lose TENS of thousands of subs, and CCP will not want or do that.

Any more game killing ideas ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#126 - 2012-04-29 16:30:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ris Dnalor
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Sweet jesus, Captain Butthurt strikes again. Are you still harping on about all this?


EDIT: I just realised why you are so butthurt over all this


Eternum Praetorian wrote:
You made CCP look at and nerf the boomerang.
You made them notice that abandoning your drones was a bannable offense.

Yes... all obvious exploits, but as you troll this thread, just remember one thing, they were easy to look past until they were used in excess.



You rely on the loopholes and flaws in the game don't you? Scams, little "tricks" that few people know about? And then when the Goons or people like them, bring these things to CCP's attention and they get removed, well that just totally messes up your "fun" doesn't it?

If it weren't for them old nasty Goons, you could keep using those little known exploits and a**hole tactics in order to keep feeling superior. Well well well, poor little Captain Butthurt really is hurting now isn't he. And that is the reason for all your anti-goon sentiment. You are a sad and lonely little man, and you have my pity.


I read this and I thought, Cutter Isaacson is the one that reads like he's butthurt Blink

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

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Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#127 - 2012-04-29 16:36:07 UTC
Henry Haphorn wrote:
You didn't read the recent article from Eurogamer.net didn't you?

CCP has officially condoned the goonswarm attempt to destroy the EVE economy by giving the campaign it's blessing.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-27-ccp-players-attempt-to-destroy-eve-online-economy-is-f-ing-brilliant


A little friendly reminder to everyone.

CCP actually enjoyed events like Burn Jita and Hulkageddon. As for the idea of players trying to destroy the economy using the in-game tools provided, what do they intend to do about it? As CCP said, they are just going to sit back and watch. That's it. And they will watch with a smile as they eat popcorn. Twisted

Adapt or Die
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#128 - 2012-04-29 16:41:11 UTC
Henry Haphorn wrote:
As CCP said, they are just going to sit back and watch. That's it. And they will watch with a smile as they eat popcorn. Twisted



This has faint echoes of the orchestra on the Titanic.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#129 - 2012-04-29 16:49:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Xython
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Alain Kinsella wrote:
Just ban Exhumers from High-Sec and be done with it already. You can then tweak them for proper tanks without making them overshadow mining in High.

I'll admit it would be an interesting 'backlash' - is it a nerf? I'm not so sure. It's certainly in line with CCPs stated goals of getting more industry out to Null.

It would also make Hulkageddon an interesting sport. Suddenly the miners can shoot back. Pirate



High Sec Bears will never go to null.

Hulks can fit no turrets or launchers so the comment about miners shooting back is idiotic.

Your knucklehead idea would lose TENS of thousands of subs, and CCP will not want or do that.

Any more game killing ideas ?


Because a Mining Op is always 100% Hulks and never includes combat ships that are PVP fit and ready to defend the ships.

I suppose in Highsec, where after years of bleating at CCP it's somewhat difficult to gank a ship (and even if you are in danger of being ganked, your illegal bot program auto detects this and warps you off) that's true, but in real EVE anyone going it solo like that had better be watching local like a goddaamned hawk or get used to losing ships every few hours.

And you know what: I never quite agreed with the idea of killing "the game," but the more I realize that you guys are playing something other than EVE and trying to force the rest of us to play along, the more eager I am to kill YOUR game.
Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#130 - 2012-04-29 17:02:20 UTC
Xython wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Alain Kinsella wrote:
Just ban Exhumers from High-Sec and be done with it already. You can then tweak them for proper tanks without making them overshadow mining in High.

I'll admit it would be an interesting 'backlash' - is it a nerf? I'm not so sure. It's certainly in line with CCPs stated goals of getting more industry out to Null.

It would also make Hulkageddon an interesting sport. Suddenly the miners can shoot back. Pirate



High Sec Bears will never go to null.

Hulks can fit no turrets or launchers so the comment about miners shooting back is idiotic.

Your knucklehead idea would lose TENS of thousands of subs, and CCP will not want or do that.

Any more game killing ideas ?


Because a Mining Op is always 100% Hulks and never includes combat ships that are PVP fit and ready to defend the ships.

I suppose in Highsec, where after years of bleating at CCP it's somewhat difficult to gank a ship (and even if you are in danger of being ganked, your illegal bot program auto detects this and warps you off) that's true, but in real EVE anyone going it solo like that had better be watching local like a goddaamned hawk or get used to losing ships every few hours.


"Real EVE"? Kid, give us a break. You're in GSF, which means don't even play EVE - you play SomethingAwful.com. You don't even know what it's like to play EVE; IE, starting with nothing and building yourself up. You come onto this game and instantly get free ships, 1 on 1 apprentice tutoring, safe access to null-sec resources, and all the cushy protection from your nandydandy null-sec carebear alliance. You've never even logged onto EVE Online.

And then you come onto the forums and have a cryfest about hardbears mining in hi-sec. You realize that Hi-Sec is open to you, right? Instead of getting all butthurt about hardbears scraping some ISK together in hi-sec, why not HTFU, fit a tank on a Hulk, and go out and join them?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#131 - 2012-04-29 17:03:54 UTC
Xython wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


Any more game killing ideas ?


Because a Mining Op is always 100% Hulks and never includes combat ships that are PVP fit and ready to defend the ships.




I'm only gonna grab this one idiotic point here.

THIS DOES NOT WORK. YOU KNOW THIS.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#132 - 2012-04-29 17:04:06 UTC
Nah keep exhumers in highsec, it's great seeing some crybaby fit his hulk with 6000 ehp out of greed and then cry crocodile tears when some nobody in a destroyer crumples his paper tank
Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#133 - 2012-04-29 17:04:28 UTC
Xython wrote:
And you know what: I never quite agreed with the idea of killing "the game," but the more I realize that you guys are playing something other than EVE and trying to force the rest of us to play along, the more eager I am to kill YOUR game.


Again: You're in GSF. You don't play EVE.
Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#134 - 2012-04-29 17:05:25 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Xython wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


Any more game killing ideas ?


Because a Mining Op is always 100% Hulks and never includes combat ships that are PVP fit and ready to defend the ships.




I'm only gonna grab this one idiotic point here.

THIS DOES NOT WORK. YOU KNOW THIS.



No dude, having escorts totally prevents alphaganking. All you have to do is fly really close together so your shields merge.
Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#135 - 2012-04-29 17:05:59 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Nah keep exhumers in highsec, it's great seeing some crybaby fit his hulk with 6000 ehp out of greed and then cry crocodile tears when some nobody in a destroyer crumples his paper tank


I don't think you know what "crocodile tears" means.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#136 - 2012-04-29 18:00:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Xython
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
No dude, having escorts totally prevents alphaganking. All you have to do is fly really close together so your shields merge.


You have no idea what you're talking about.

How about a scout at the gate. You see a bunch of ganking ships warp in, you warn your fleet and they warp the miners out.

In Nullsec, you bubble the gate. Gives you more time to warp out. Maybe a scout a gate out as well.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#137 - 2012-04-29 18:07:09 UTC
Goons have a manifesto to destroy MMO's and their leader has openly admitted to breaking the EULA. CCP is a reactive company and not proactive, and won't do anything until people quit.

And enough people have to quit to **** their investors off.

Thats their MO.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#138 - 2012-04-29 18:08:39 UTC
Xython wrote:
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
No dude, having escorts totally prevents alphaganking. All you have to do is fly really close together so your shields merge.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

How about a scout at the gate. You see a bunch of ganking ships warp in, you warn your fleet and they warp the miners out.

In Nullsec, you bubble the gate. Gives you more time to warp out. Maybe a scout a gate out as well.

That's why highsec is more risky than nullsec, right?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#139 - 2012-04-29 18:15:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Xython wrote:

How about a scout at the gate. You see a bunch of ganking ships warp in, you warn your fleet and they warp the miners out.




High Sec traffic is too high for this to ever work. You don't play in high Sec so you would not know.

FLEE every single time someone jumps in system ? I think not.

Only real defense is to add to Contact every possible Idiot Alliance in the game, yours included, and keep eyes on Local for Red.

Anything else is a waste of either time, ISK, or mining yield, or all 3.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Demosthenes O'Connor
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#140 - 2012-04-29 18:50:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Demosthenes O'Connor
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
Xython wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Alain Kinsella wrote:
Just ban Exhumers from High-Sec and be done with it already. You can then tweak them for proper tanks without making them overshadow mining in High.

I'll admit it would be an interesting 'backlash' - is it a nerf? I'm not so sure. It's certainly in line with CCPs stated goals of getting more industry out to Null.

It would also make Hulkageddon an interesting sport. Suddenly the miners can shoot back. Pirate



High Sec Bears will never go to null.

Hulks can fit no turrets or launchers so the comment about miners shooting back is idiotic.

Your knucklehead idea would lose TENS of thousands of subs, and CCP will not want or do that.

Any more game killing ideas ?


Because a Mining Op is always 100% Hulks and never includes combat ships that are PVP fit and ready to defend the ships.

I suppose in Highsec, where after years of bleating at CCP it's somewhat difficult to gank a ship (and even if you are in danger of being ganked, your illegal bot program auto detects this and warps you off) that's true, but in real EVE anyone going it solo like that had better be watching local like a goddaamned hawk or get used to losing ships every few hours.


"Real EVE"? Kid, give us a break. You're in GSF, which means don't even play EVE - you play SomethingAwful.com. You don't even know what it's like to play EVE; IE, starting with nothing and building yourself up. You come onto this game and instantly get free ships, 1 on 1 apprentice tutoring, safe access to null-sec resources, and all the cushy protection from your nandydandy null-sec carebear alliance. You've never even logged onto EVE Online.

And then you come onto the forums and have a cryfest about hardbears mining in hi-sec. You realize that Hi-Sec is open to you, right? Instead of getting all butthurt about hardbears scraping some ISK together in hi-sec, why not HTFU, fit a tank on a Hulk, and go out and join them?


Exactly this.

The interior of any major alliance territory is almost exactly like high sec. Nullbears in major alliances do not live anything like a hardscrabble existence.

Don't forget the blobs of people flying together so they are in far less danger. Blobbing is smart but people shouldn't let the fantasy of playing an unkillable pilot flying in a blob make them think they are any sort of hero flying on the bleeding edge of danger. I mean really.

"Boring Jita" was just a temporary infestation, a fart in a hurricane. It was fun but so is a weekend in cabo.

Ships got destroyed and replaced as usual only this weekend it was a wee bit more concentrated.

If "let's build a shitload of ships and suicide gank people in one location for a couple of days" is some of the best player content to be found in EVE then perhaps this is why the game has never blown up as much as it could?

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