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Fair Warning: Hulkageddon V Backlash Predicted

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#101 - 2012-04-29 14:22:29 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Original post, I didn't see any butthurt in the comment.



And another. I'm not even to page 2.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#102 - 2012-04-29 14:28:44 UTC
EVE Stig wrote:


Hey Goons, you wanna make a rael impact on the game? Hulkageddon year.



Goons have nothing to do with Hulkageddon as an event, beyond the mittani's co-sponsorship.

Don't give credit where it is not due.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#103 - 2012-04-29 14:31:04 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
You made them notice that abandoning your drones was a bannable offense.

What is this about?


http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4991&tid=1

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#104 - 2012-04-29 14:34:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Xython wrote:

Boomerang is not nor ever was an exploit



You are just full of it.

"‘If you gain a Global Criminal Countdown by committing an illegal action in high security space, it is considered an exploit to attack a target after you warp away from the grid, or warp within the same grid, where you gained that GCC; even if you later return to that grid while still affected by that GCC."

http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4972

So WHO exactly wants EVE EASY ???

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#105 - 2012-04-29 14:36:52 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:

So yeah, I consider myself to be a nullsec player (as 90% of my time is spent there) but 2/3 of my actual characters are in hisec.


THIS actually seems to be the majority 'situation' in the game. But then a bear is a bear, whether Care- or Null-.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
#106 - 2012-04-29 14:37:55 UTC
I can clearly see why CCP has "endorsed" both Burn Jita and Hulkageddon.

Let's face it, both add CONTENT which is sorely lacking at this time.

We need ships destroyed on a large scale and all the null-bears are dug into their respective areas like tics and not willing (or able with current sov, blob, hot drop, bridging mechanics) to make any serious headway in null-wars.

So, as I see it, any content is good content.

Nothing clever at this time.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#107 - 2012-04-29 14:39:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Kyshonuba wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:


A CCP guy tweeted 71% of accounts are in high
Someone can find the link Im sure
I dont have it





Xython wrote:


In short, while the much lauded fanfest pie chart suggests that Highsec players outnumber Nullsec by about a 2-3:1 ratio, I find those numbers to be suspect. I would be interested in seeing how many accounts fall into both categories at once, and see the chart adjusted accordingly.

I think we'd see a huge difference.
.....



Actually there where 2 of them. CCP Dr.EyjoG at EVE Fanfest 2012: State of the Economy (4:40)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MZD6-vGQms&feature=relmfu

You are right, that the mere numbers of "player avatars" residing in high/low sec, are an imprecise indicator for "real player" numbers participating in low/0 sec gameplay.
Maybe we can encourage CSM or CCP to get a better approximation ?


I really dont think they want to for some reason or another or they would have by now

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
EVE Stig wrote:


Hey Goons, you wanna make a rael impact on the game? Hulkageddon year.



Goons have nothing to do with Hulkageddon as an event, beyond the mittani's co-sponsorship.

Don't give credit where it is not due.


well give that theyre the reason its a month this time and not a week....
I think credit is where it IS due on that one

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#108 - 2012-04-29 14:43:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Nick Bison wrote:
I can clearly see why CCP has "endorsed" both Burn Jita and Hulkageddon.

Let's face it, both add CONTENT which is sorely lacking at this time.

We need ships destroyed on a large scale and all the null-bears are dug into their respective areas like tics and not willing (or able with current sov, blob, hot drop, bridging mechanics) to make any serious headway in null-wars.

So, as I see it, any content is good content.


Way I see it the Boomerang was "fixed" BECAUSE of Burn Jita
lol

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-27-ccp-players-attempt-to-destroy-eve-online-economy-is-f-ing-brilliant

"I tell you what, it's going to be f***ing brilliant," Jon Lander, senior producer of Eve Online, told Eurogamer this morning. "Absolutely brilliant.

"There was one bug [the 'bookmark escaping agro bug'] in the game that meant that if they do the things they're going to do, they could have escaped the in-game consequences. So we fixed that bug about three weeks ago. And they went, okay.

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#109 - 2012-04-29 14:43:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:


well give that theyre the reason its a month this time and not a week....
I think credit is where it IS due on that one



The month long Hulkageddon is the idea of Helicity Boson, not the Goons. LAST years was a month as well. It was never for one week.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#110 - 2012-04-29 14:45:26 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:


well give that theyre the reason its a month this time and not a week....
I think credit is where it IS due on that one



The month long Hulkageddon is the idea of Helicity Boson, not the Goons. LAST years was a month as well.



We should make it a year long. Every year.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#111 - 2012-04-29 14:46:12 UTC
Miilla wrote:
[quote=Krixtal Icefluxor]


We should make it a year long. Every year.



Again, you would be horrible to play Monopoly with.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#112 - 2012-04-29 14:48:41 UTC  |  Edited by: corestwo
Kyshonuba wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:


A CCP guy tweeted 71% of accounts are in high
Someone can find the link Im sure
I dont have it





Xython wrote:


In short, while the much lauded fanfest pie chart suggests that Highsec players outnumber Nullsec by about a 2-3:1 ratio, I find those numbers to be suspect. I would be interested in seeing how many accounts fall into both categories at once, and see the chart adjusted accordingly.

I think we'd see a huge difference.
.....



Actually there where 2 of them. CCP Dr.EyjoG at EVE Fanfest 2012: State of the Economy (4:40)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MZD6-vGQms&feature=relmfu

You are right, that the mere numbers of "player avatars" residing in high/low sec, are an imprecise indicator for "real player" numbers participating in low/0 sec gameplay.
Maybe we can encourage CSM or CCP to get a better approximation ?


Just a note on this, I have something like 18 characters across 8 accounts. Currently, a mere 7 of them reside in nullsec and that's only recently, before that it was 3. Many nullsec players have at least one alt in highsec if for no other reason than to be able to check market prices in jita or purchase items in jita to have shipped to 0.0. Basically, that statistic is garbage because there's far too much unknown about it. if CCP is basing design choices on it, they're idiots.

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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#113 - 2012-04-29 14:49:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:


well give that theyre the reason its a month this time and not a week....
I think credit is where it IS due on that one



The month long Hulkageddon is the idea of Helicity Boson, not the Goons. LAST years was a month as well.

You sure of that I dont remember it being more than normal

corestwo wrote:
CCP ... idiots.


Youre Goon... you dont know this already?

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#114 - 2012-04-29 15:00:34 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:


well give that theyre the reason its a month this time and not a week....
I think credit is where it IS due on that one



The month long Hulkageddon is the idea of Helicity Boson, not the Goons. LAST years was a month as well. It was never for one week.

Hulkageddon I 111.10.16 - 111.10.19

Hulkageddon III was July 9th, 2010 through July 18th, 2010.

Hulkageddon IV was "the last week of feb + 1 extra weekend." According to Helicity

was two a month then? Thats the only one I cant find a date for

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#115 - 2012-04-29 15:04:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:


well give that theyre the reason its a month this time and not a week....
I think credit is where it IS due on that one



The month long Hulkageddon is the idea of Helicity Boson, not the Goons. LAST years was a month as well. It was never for one week.

Hulkageddon I 111.10.16 - 111.10.19

Hulkageddon III was July 9th, 2010 through July 18th, 2010.

Hulkageddon IV was "the last week of feb + 1 extra weekend." According to Helicity

was two a month then? Thats the only one I cant find a date for



Indeed correct Oops The cancelled November 2011 H'geddon was to be a month long.

Regardless, it's Helicity's event, not the Goons.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#116 - 2012-04-29 15:08:58 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:


well give that theyre the reason its a month this time and not a week....
I think credit is where it IS due on that one



The month long Hulkageddon is the idea of Helicity Boson, not the Goons. LAST years was a month as well. It was never for one week.

Hulkageddon I 111.10.16 - 111.10.19

Hulkageddon III was July 9th, 2010 through July 18th, 2010.

Hulkageddon IV was "the last week of feb + 1 extra weekend." According to Helicity

was two a month then? Thats the only one I cant find a date for



Indeed correct Oops The cancelled November 2011 H'geddon was to be a month long.

Regardless, it's Helicity's event, not the Goons.


Didnt really mean it was, I meant if the GOONS want to influence things hold a year long hulkageddon TYPE event lol

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#117 - 2012-04-29 15:36:19 UTC
Kyshonuba wrote:
Actually there where 2 of them. CCP Dr.EyjoG at EVE Fanfest 2012: State of the Economy (4:40)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MZD6-vGQms&feature=relmfu

You are right, that the mere numbers of "player avatars" residing in high/low sec, are an imprecise indicator for "real player" numbers participating in low/0 sec gameplay.
Maybe we can encourage CSM or CCP to get a better approximation ?


I would love to see that. Specifically, I would like to see 2 new data mines be done and made available to the playerbase:

Data Mine 1:
Number of accounts that ONLY have characters in highsec / nullsec / characters in both

Data Mine 2:
Number of Unique Class C networks that ONLY have characters in Highsec / Nullsec / characters in both

Because Data Mine 1, while useful, would not catch players that have an entire other account in highsec, like dual boxing a market alt or whatnot.

I would also like to know if that data dump includes canceled accounts, say characters that have not logged in in > 3-6 months.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2012-04-29 15:45:35 UTC
Nick Bison wrote:
I can clearly see why CCP has "endorsed" both Burn Jita and Hulkageddon.

Let's face it, both add CONTENT which is sorely lacking at this time.

We need ships destroyed on a large scale and all the null-bears are dug into their respective areas like tics and not willing (or able with current sov, blob, hot drop, bridging mechanics) to make any serious headway in null-wars.

So, as I see it, any content is good content.


They "endorsed" Burn Jita and Hulkageddon because they have people with Doctorates and Masters Degrees in Economics working for them, who took one look at the raw EVE economy data and fainted dead away. After they woke up they started rocking to themselves chanting "Oh god, oh god, the Inflation." They didn't come back from the dark unhappy place until someone started chanting the Fibonacci sequence nearby in a calm, soothing voice.

Burn Jita and Hulkageddon are absolutely necessary to help reboot the EVE economy after literally years of damage due to bot miners, drone alloys, and other completely abused mechanics.

Consider that they made a rather big deal about talking about wanting to fix the "neglected other 2 tiers of EVE" -- Harvesting for Minerals and Crafting -- in the upcoming months. No doubt this will include a fix for bot mining, which will further fix the economy.

Personally, if they can find a way to restore glory to the Nullsec miner, and help reboot the Nullsec PVP ecosystem it would be even better, but you know how it is -- baby steps.

I think that would have the carebears up in arms even more than anything else, to be honest. "What, you mean I have to actually coordinate and play with others if I want to make pantloads of money in the game? That's stupid~~~!!!"
Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#119 - 2012-04-29 16:03:20 UTC
You people are so obtuse. Even rats know when their ship is sinking.

After the incoming nerfs, I will bump this thread with great glee.
Alain Kinsella
#120 - 2012-04-29 16:05:44 UTC
Just ban Exhumers from High-Sec and be done with it already. You can then tweak them for proper tanks without making them overshadow mining in High.

I'll admit it would be an interesting 'backlash' - is it a nerf? I'm not so sure. It's certainly in line with CCPs stated goals of getting more industry out to Null.

It would also make Hulkageddon an interesting sport. Suddenly the miners can shoot back. Pirate

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