Wormholes

The only way I'd go for this is if they double or triple the number of wormspace systems I already feel there isn't enough wormspace.

I need a cold shower after thinking about a C5->C5/C3.

The last thing I would think we want is CCP making crazy changes to wh space. Lets get a better system for POS's before we even think about messing with statics.

I agree with the OP; it would be nice to have some more connections in wormholes aside from C2's. We live in a C2 because you do get the branching wormhole chains to scan out; I also treat hisec as a branching wormhole chain where some of your systems don't have wormholes.

Adding second statics to higher-end wormholes would change the dynamics significantly, for the better in my opinion. C5 space can often be "turtles all the way down", which results in serial static rolling to actually get fights, or a k-space exit.

I don't think that a bit of chaos during implementation is a bad thing. The advent of PI saw quite a bit of conflict in C4 to C1 space as people who previously thought their 4 planet system was fine suddenly yearned for more riches, and went looking for the mythical 3 plasma C1 known affectionately as "robotron". This also goes for C5's, tbh, because PI fuel capability is important in the deep rabbit hole.

So, if you suddenly get a second static and your C5>C2 gets a C3, you may decide this is too lame and leave, or find somene else is quite a bit happier punching your donuts for that configuration and you end up fighting. I can't see how this is a more adverse effect that some of the stuff CCP has just invented into the game recently.

But my biggest pet peeve are C4's. You never, ever get a damn k-space connection in C4 space. Its easier to do logistics in a C6 because you connect to C5's which get k-space to hisec, and voila, a freighter full of fuel. C4's, you're frever doing hauler runs with fuels via your statics - and f you're stupid enough to live in C4>C4 you see why this constealltion is 90% empty.

I saw my first H121 the other week. I have only been doing wormholes since, well, forever.

I'm not sure I like the idea of more statics (full disclosure: I live in a c2) because it would mess with existing setups, but if they did that -- adapt. But I *do* fully support the idea of adding more dynamic/roaming/random connections. And go ahead and add a few more hisec connections (roaming) to or from the C4-C6 systems. More connections will lead to a bit more interaction with everyone else, which is a good thing.

Your either not sticking around long enough or your having extremely terrible luck. I been doing PvP ops for a few months, and I at lest step inside of another Jhole once a day. And I have only ever seen one empty wormhole.

How does the idea of turning the c4 constellations that are just c4/c4 into a clone of the c2/LS+c2 constellations.

Since it already has a c4 static you can make a second one go up to c5-6 space and one going back down to c3-c1 space.

How one decides which second static to assign I dunno, but if there is more than one of these constellations that would solve the problem. Make one constellation go up, and the other go down.

Although this could probably have the effect of a lot of lower classes looping back in on themselves, and the higher classes doing the same.

Just an idea though.

I don't think we have to hold back, or "pull our punches" when discussing new features. CCP has more people than ever working on the game, I think it's allright that some feature requests have some amount of work attached. I can certainly see another Apocrypha addon-expansion somewhere down the line, when core systems have been reworked.

I think the easy way out would be to add another random static to all wormholes. Yeah, some inhabitants could possibly get luckier than others, but we adapt like we always do. I feel it's time to shake things up abit.

As for expanding on this C7 idea, there are a few ways we could make it really interesting, instead of the usual “meh...whatever”. At first I wasn’t a a huge fan of making regions uninhabitable. I get this picture of farmers living out of Orcas, and logging off whenever they see new sigs on scan. But maybe there is a way...

ALLRIGHT! Brainstorming-time:

Suppose we got a new C7 region with 40-50 systems.

Suppose these systems we’re permanently connected to eachother, like a Nullsec Region. *GASP*, right?

This region would effectively be a -1.0 Nullsec region with a new race. Lets call them “The Awakened”. The Awakened (Wakers) could be the grandparents of The Sleepers and they would be a mean race. Really, really mean and the region would be far, far away from New Eden (By far I mean more Lightyears than a carrier with JumpCal5 can reach, if you catch my drift).

Maybe these regions were divided into constellations of varying difficulty (pve-content, gaterats etc, much like W-Space itself).

This region would be accessible only through numerous dynamic wormholes. C1-3 leading to easy constellations, C4-6 leading to midrange constellations. And in the same way: Highsec dynamics leading into easy constellations, Lowsec/Nullsec into midrange constellations).

What if The Wakers had super-secret laboratories where they were working on a strange new technology that New Eden scientists could twist into new, modular-based shiptypes! *GASP* Wait...we already got Strategic Cruisers. Well, what the hell. Make them Strategic Battleships then!

What if the gasses required to produce Strategic Battleships simply could be looted from super-secret Waker Haulers (cornered, and tackled(!) in some long lost pocket of space, after a hard pve-encounter), instead of needing long and mindless gas-mining-sessions-of-horrible-horrible-boring-doom in completely helpless ships?

What if The Waker gaterats bubbled the gates sometimes? *GASP*

What if the components of building Strategic Battleships were so unstable that parts would have to be manufactured on the spot?

What if the region was so unstable that if your ship was exposed to its environmental effects and radiation for too long, it would eventually damage your ship beyond use. Maybe after 12 hours (or whatever) all your modules would reach 100% damage. (Yes, losing power/isp/incoming CCP hotpatch/whatever stranding you in the region for a couple of days would cripple your ship and you’d have to Self-Destruct or Eject from the ship and podjump back to K-Space. DEAL with it!)

Would it be interesting if all hauling to and from this Region would have to be done through W-Space (ie wormholes FROM this region would only go to C1-C6 space)?

Wormholes to this region should be short duration (6-12 hours), limited mass, maybe 1.5 billion kg, and maxjumpmass of no higher than Battleship. All wormholes to and from this region should be size 10, easy and quick to scan from anywhere.

What if there were rumors of incredibly rich, random wormholes, that only appeared in the toughest sections of this Region, after certain pve escalations, that nobody had managed to come back from alive. Rumors of Waker capital ships, and secret building plants and facilities able to produce strange and wonderful ships and modules. How about a “Projected Warp Disruption Probe I” that could be fitted on Heavy Interdictiors. This module would spew forth a warp disruption field, like a spiderweb, travelling through space like a missile. We could all huddle together and blow bubbles...in space...and think happy thoughts. And maybe sing songs. Who knows, right!?!?

This region would be a place that reward tactics, knowledge and expensive and well thought out fleet compositions, over numbers. End-game content for veterans of Eve Online, with strong organization and experience.

Maybe you would have to train some new skills to make your ship better suited to exposure to this new, exotic and unstable environment.

See where I’m going with this? Would you come here to fight, to claim your price?

I’d be there, that I can promise you. And when we meet, we’ll FIGHT for the rights to exploit this wonderful, harsh and unforgiving place! But we’ll fight in even numbers and similar shipclasses (frig up to BS), and none of us will have an advantage over the other, except maybe in willpower, knowledge, motivation, stamina, pilotingskills, bravery etc etc, you get the idea...So when you kick our asses, you can do so safely knowing we can't escalate with 214 Dreads and a Phoenix.

Like Cooller once said on Live on Three: “Lets dream together!”

Mind you, people have often times called me crazy =)