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Fair Warning: Hulkageddon V Backlash Predicted

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#81 - 2012-04-29 09:52:39 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:

You made CCP look at and nerf the boomerang.
You made them notice that abandoning your drones was a bannable offense.

Yes... all obvious exploits.


Yes, exploits.

Suicide ganking is not an exploit. I hope I have in some way increased your IQ this day.

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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#82 - 2012-04-29 09:55:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
Backlash? Isn't that the same backlash that's threatened every hulkageddon but never happens?

Events like these bring Eve back to life again! What it desperately needs. It becomes less grind and more game play. Variation is what it needs.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2012-04-29 10:02:33 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:

You made CCP look at and nerf the boomerang.
You made them notice that abandoning your drones was a bannable offense.

Yes... all obvious exploits.


Yes, exploits.

Suicide ganking is not an exploit. I hope I have in some way increased your IQ this day.


Boomerang is not nor ever was an exploit, people have petitioned about this before and been told it is not. As long as the criminal eventually dies to Concord, they're not evading Concord, are they?

CCP caved in to the EVE hating Carebears (again) and should be taken to task for it. In the meantime, just fly cheaper ships and make the pubbies burn.
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#84 - 2012-04-29 10:03:20 UTC
Xython wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:

You made CCP look at and nerf the boomerang.
You made them notice that abandoning your drones was a bannable offense.

Yes... all obvious exploits.


Yes, exploits.

Suicide ganking is not an exploit. I hope I have in some way increased your IQ this day.


Boomerang is not nor ever was an exploit, people have petitioned about this before and been told it is not. As long as the criminal eventually dies to Concord, they're not evading Concord, are they?

CCP caved in to the EVE hating Carebears (again) and should be taken to task for it. In the meantime, just fly cheaper ships and make the pubbies burn.



They won't because it is the carebears that bring the money into CCP's bank.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2012-04-29 10:12:25 UTC
Miilla wrote:
They won't because it is the carebears that bring the money into CCP's bank.


I question that assertion given how badly the game's subscriptions are affected whenever there's a "Carebear Expansion" put out.

In fact, I even question the idea that there are more Highsec players than Nullsec players. Consider that every single Goon I know has at least one Market alt, often multiples, often combined with several PI or Datacore farming alts (3x PI / Datacore alt will pay for that account + your main), often combined with ten hour hero alts.

And of course, there's the "bot situation." When you have people running 20+ Ice Miner bots at the same time, well, the numbers get a bit skewed as well.

In short, while the much lauded fanfest pie chart suggests that Highsec players outnumber Nullsec by about a 2-3:1 ratio, I find those numbers to be suspect. I would be interested in seeing how many accounts fall into both categories at once, and see the chart adjusted accordingly.

I think we'd see a huge difference.

Asheron's Call under Microsoft used the "The botters pay more" excuse as a justification to allow rampant botting, which eventually destroyed the game. There were more people in Jita tonight than in the entirety of AC across 7 servers, and the games launched relatively close to one another.
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Commonwealth Vanguard
#86 - 2012-04-29 10:22:34 UTC
I currently have 2 characters in Nullsec (my main game) and 4 in hisec so yeah id go with the fact that hisec has more actual characters for sure, but maybe not that many more actual people behind the accounts.

So yeah, I consider myself to be a nullsec player (as 90% of my time is spent there) but 2/3 of my actual characters are in hisec.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.

Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-04-29 10:44:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Xython wrote:
Boomerang is not nor ever was an exploit, people have petitioned about this before and been told it is not. As long as the criminal eventually dies to Concord, they're not evading Concord, are they?


I don't disagree with you fully on this, however the people that were using it to completely avoid CONCORD was the reason it was brought to light.

Only a true Noonga can master the Boomerang.

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Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#88 - 2012-04-29 10:51:10 UTC
Brobocop McBro wrote:
I will single handedly avenge Goons for every miner killed during Hulkageddon. They should not be able to run rampant like this.

What they fail to realized is that I am who CCP cares about. I am the average miner that has 5 accounts and pays their bills every month buying my accounts with a credit card instead of plexing in order to help them. I don't have any legs anymore so this game is really important to me and my govt actually pays for my gaming lolBear I have hulkageddon and I will complain if I am not able to punish them in game until they get banned instead.

They made this game for me not you guys. Don't ruin this for me please.
See kiddies.

Mining. Bad for you.

Takes your legs and leaves you nothing but credit card bills.

Errr and stumps.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2012-04-29 11:20:42 UTC
Xython wrote:
You're forgetting that roughly half of those highsec characters are nullsec market alts.


Do you have any statistics to substantiate this claim?

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#90 - 2012-04-29 11:50:23 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:


Yes, exploits.

Suicide ganking is not an exploit. I hope I have in some way increased your IQ this day.


Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
I'm not sure where people are getting that it was planned with CCP.

Here. Have some tinfoil.


Sorry its early in the morning here..

Quote:
"There was one bug [the 'bookmark escaping agro bug'] in the game that meant that if they do the things they're going to do, they could have escaped the in-game consequences. So we fixed that bug about three weeks ago. And they went, okay.


So CCP knew at least that long ago what was planed.

So, all of you who wonder why the Boomerang suddenly became an exploit? There you go


Funny thing: Goons plan Burn Jita
Boomerang is suddenly an exploit and fixed.
Cooincidence
*noms tinfoil*


Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game

fgft Athonille
Doomheim
#91 - 2012-04-29 12:26:33 UTC
u r one one mad bad op
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#92 - 2012-04-29 12:34:17 UTC
fgft Athonille wrote:
u r one one mad bad op



Stupid meme is stupid TBH, saying that an op seemed mad does not mean it had any angry connotation. I will be mad however if suicide ganking in general is nerfed into the floor. And so will you Blink





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Zed Jackelope
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#93 - 2012-04-29 12:46:11 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
You made CCP look at and nerf the boomerang.
You made them notice that abandoning your drones was a bannable offense.

Yes... all obvious exploits, but as you troll this thread, just remember one thing, they were easy to look past until they were used in excess.



Wrong.

1. Warping away from a suicide gank was never an exploit, it was only an exploit if you successfully avoided Concord. You still could not dock, you still could not jump through a gate, you still could not jump through a wormhole. All you could do is stay in warp until they caught up to you and you were popped.

2. Abandoning your drones should never have been an exploit, because Concord should NEVER have shot at abandoned drones in the first place. Abandoned drones are trash, anyone can pick them up, and they do not attack anyone. That is an oversight on the Devs for not thinking of the obvious.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#94 - 2012-04-29 12:48:31 UTC
Zed Jackelope wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
You made CCP look at and nerf the boomerang.
You made them notice that abandoning your drones was a bannable offense.

Yes... all obvious exploits, but as you troll this thread, just remember one thing, they were easy to look past until they were used in excess.



Wrong.

1. Warping away from a suicide gank was never an exploit, it was only an exploit if you successfully avoided Concord. You still could not dock, you still could not jump through a gate, you still could not jump through a wormhole. All you could do is stay in warp until they caught up to you and you were popped.

2. Abandoning your drones should never have been an exploit, because Concord should NEVER have shot at abandoned drones in the first place. Abandoned drones are trash, anyone can pick them up, and they do not attack anyone. That is an oversight on the Devs for not thinking of the obvious.



Now you seem angry.
I will offer a **** you, because CCP "fixed" these usable features as a direct result of players bringing more attention to them. Kiss <3.

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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#95 - 2012-04-29 13:24:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Mallak Azaria wrote:


Yes, exploits.

Suicide ganking is not an exploit. I hope I have in some way increased your IQ this day.




Sorry its early in the morning here..

Quote:
"There was one bug [the 'bookmark escaping agro bug'] in the game that meant that if they do the things they're going to do, they could have escaped the in-game consequences. So we fixed that bug about three weeks ago. And they went, okay.


So CCP knew at least that long ago what was planed.

So, all of you who wonder why the Boomerang suddenly became an exploit? There you go
Funny thing: Goons plan Burn Jita
Boomerang is suddenly an exploit and fixed.
Cooincidence
*noms tinfoil*



Xython wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:

You made CCP look at and nerf the boomerang.
You made them notice that abandoning your drones was a bannable offense.

Yes... all obvious exploits.


Yes, exploits.

Suicide ganking is not an exploit. I hope I have in some way increased your IQ this day.


Boomerang is not nor ever was an exploit, people have petitioned about this before and been told it is not. As long as the criminal eventually dies to Concord, they're not evading Concord, are they?

CCP caved in to the EVE hating Carebears (again) and should be taken to task for it. In the meantime, just fly cheaper ships and make the pubbies burn.


It was never an expliot till Goons planned "burn Jita" with CCP and CCP figures out you all could avoid CONCORD

Its not hard to figure out whose to blame for that one, Goon

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#96 - 2012-04-29 13:25:58 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
I currently have 2 characters in Nullsec (my main game) and 4 in hisec so yeah id go with the fact that hisec has more actual characters for sure, but maybe not that many more actual people behind the accounts.

So yeah, I consider myself to be a nullsec player (as 90% of my time is spent there) but 2/3 of my actual characters are in hisec.


A CCP guy tweeted 71% of accounts are in high
Someone can find the link Im sure
I dont have it

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game

Kyshonuba
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#97 - 2012-04-29 13:58:14 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:


A CCP guy tweeted 71% of accounts are in high
Someone can find the link Im sure
I dont have it





Xython wrote:


In short, while the much lauded fanfest pie chart suggests that Highsec players outnumber Nullsec by about a 2-3:1 ratio, I find those numbers to be suspect. I would be interested in seeing how many accounts fall into both categories at once, and see the chart adjusted accordingly.

I think we'd see a huge difference.
.....



Actually there where 2 of them. CCP Dr.EyjoG at EVE Fanfest 2012: State of the Economy (4:40)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MZD6-vGQms&feature=relmfu

You are right, that the mere numbers of "player avatars" residing in high/low sec, are an imprecise indicator for "real player" numbers participating in low/0 sec gameplay.
Maybe we can encourage CSM or CCP to get a better approximation ?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#98 - 2012-04-29 14:15:21 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
As these events progress and come into their own, it is all to easy to take it somewhere that could have unintended results for you.



Beleive me, they've already forgotten about THE Alliance Panel.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#99 - 2012-04-29 14:17:07 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Sweet jesus, Captain Butthurt



Anyone else ready to declare 'butthurt' one of those verbotten OVERused overly-Geek terms ????

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#100 - 2012-04-29 14:20:16 UTC
HARD STEEL wrote:
Get all your friends together and make a change if you're that butt hurt about this.


The WORD again.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882