Intergalactic Summit

The Lady is beautiful, too kind - and possesses impeccable taste in how to wear her hair!

You have also been infused with that virtue of humility, my dear, for your command of fields such as artificial intelligence and kinetics is demonstrably formidable. One might say that your cookie does not crumble. It is only natural, therefore, that you should catch sight of hidden motivations behind the ticks in my tack. For the time being, those remain so outlandish and fanciful in nature that I must limit myself to the Sebiestor's fate. In small steps.

However, your identification of the Long Game gave me quite an enjoyable glow. It was a Gallente diplomat who most accurately described our civilization:

"[Amarr's] advancements are not by leaps and bounds, but rather through deliberate and articulate planning that can span decades, even centuries. Getting caught in the finely woven spider-webs of a Holder can trap more than just you - it can trap your children and your children’s children."

- Dam-Torsad

It gives me chills to imagine the words spoken with a sultry Galois gait. In the dark, under our cavernous cathedrals, we navigate the demon pits, weaving our venom-soaked webs to snare the children of a thousand years and spin them into kings or paupers - as their merits shall decide!

But Ssakaa (a name I have come to love saying over and over) asks a fair question:



My family is old and powerless. As I mentioned, in all of our history, only two of us have spent much time in space. Dear Great Auntie spent her days on Matari safari, and I've spent most of mine in Tash-Murkon - a region of the Empire where one can be a little on the outs and still prosper. I mention this because the Tash-Murkon are the royal Udorian line, "one Trial from the Throne." In contrast to the Khanid and Ni-Kunni, who retained many of their unique qualities, Udorians have sacrificed their very identity to ascend - becoming almost indistinguishable from the original Amarr. Because contact with the Udorian bloodline is said to have instilled within the True Amarr the notion of Reclaiming, it would only be fitting a Udorian should become first of those once enslaved to rule.

Ambitious, industrious, determined - the Udorians have brought economic revitalization to the Empire. They prove out the merits of slavery as a cultural exchange, and are the lens through which I see the possibilities inherent in redeeming the Sebiestor.

It will be a cold day and an Empire long fallen past relevancy when a scheming Udorian *said with contempt* like Tash-Murkon has the throne.

The Amarr are currently afraid that the Minmatar will invade them and destroy their culture. Sounds to me as if the cultural transfer worked quite well.

Just throwing that out there. Do you have onions on there, Ava?

Then clearly you haven't seen much. She's just a madwoman with delusions of adequacy.

You are free to discount her as insane if you like, of course. Given how she's been dominating the conversation, and how none of the opposing arguments have developed or persevered to rebut her - and how she continues despite garnering no support? I'd have to say that it looks like she's getting exactly the reaction she was hoping for. But, again, feel free to disagree. I don't think she should be taken as lightly as that. That's all.

Oh, heavy sigh. The first time I addressed this issue, I figured that the individuals involved would dig in, and so I had follow up materials at the ready. I was really looking forward to springing one trap in particular. But they did not dig in, and I put my materials away. Naturally, not but a few hours after doing that, the issue would come up again.

Back to the shelf we go... I'll just start off with the Book of EVE. I mean, why not? Regarding demonizing the Krusual:

"The Krusual tribe initially inhabited the mountainous region of the upper
Tronhadar-valley on Matar. The other tribes regarded the Krusuals as the
most barbaric of them all."

Regarding the rivalry between the Krusual and the Sebiestor:

22/12/2003
Minmatars excited over new technologies
The slew of new technologies flooding the Minmatar Republic has spurred many Minmatars to start agitating for
taking up arms against the enemies of the Republic. Parliament members from the Brutor tribe, which suffered
the most under Amarrian tyranny, are certain that with the host of new weaponry available the Amarrians and
the hated Ammatars can be defeated once and for all. The Brutors are being supported overtly and covertly by
the Krusual tribe, though political experts say they are only doing so to weaken the authority of the Sebiestor
tribe, the leaders of the parliament and the main rivals of the Krusual tribe.

Emphasis added to help those easily distracted. Note that the above passage also supports the contention that the Brutor and Sebiestor were at odds. If you would like to verify the authenticity of the passages, feel free to peruse the encyclopedia and use its search functionality for yourself:

Encyclopedia

Moreover, don't take the rivalry between the Krusual and the Sebiestor from only me and a compendium of all materials on life in the cluster, there is also the work of a feisty young woman with good taste in fast food:

“The Krusual and the Sebiestor have been enemies since Matar brought us into being.”

- Ava Starfire's Chronicles

Silly me, I had not actually expected the existence of this rivalry to be a point of contention, as it is in fact documented for any serious student of Matari history to discover.

So what's it going to be, serious student's of Matari history?

Am I, Gosakumori Noh, to be given credit for single handedly altering the historical record to cast aspersions on the Sebiestor and Krusual; or, are you going to concede that actually I know more about your people's history than, apparently, many of your people?

Who knows, even Jamyl Sarum got crowned, and she bears countless more sins than a mere racial issue.

While the Sebiestor and Krusual may not always see eye-to-eye, that is "family business" so to speak.

To claim that due to some intertribal squabbling means that one Tribe will sell the others into slavery makes about as much sense as claiming that, due to interfamily squabbling, one Holder family will soon hand the others over to the Minmatar.

Not that I would mind, of course.

And yes, I had onions and green peppers. A little place in the RFAP station in Gelfiven named "Luigi's". Recommended!

And people can not speak about it ?

If it was diffamation that was really the issue here, the people above would have adressed it as such : diffamation. Instead they choosed to make an analogy to "family business", which has nothing to do with the matter at hand, as one can guess.

So, if the OP and purpose of this thread had not been about diffamation, would you still be claiming it is family business or would you be inclined to speak about the historical differences and relationships between the Krusual and the Sebiestor ?