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AFK cloaking to save Jita!

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Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#1 - 2012-04-27 03:29:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Wolodymyr
OK so you are pissed off at Burn Jita, or Hulkageddon, or OTEC, or whatever. And you persionally want to do something about it. That's an understandable instinct. But there are some things that won't work and some things that will work.

getting a fleet together and sending it into their space won't work. And you will explode in an embarrassing and halarious manner.

Donating money to people who say they are going to do something about it won't work. Unless it's me. You should give me lots of money.

Forum whine won't work because your ideas are terrible and will be ignored.

Counter ganking suicide gankers will sort of work, but you are just blowing up ships that were going to blow themselves up anyway.


But what if I was to tell you that there is something you can do on your own, that takes very little isk, very little SP, and very little actual piloting skills. But it can shut down an entire nullsec ratting / mining system.

If you don't know what AFK cloaking is, go look it up in the "Assembly Hall" or "Features and Ideas" find any thread about cloaking and AFK cloaking always comes up.

Basically you just sit cloaked in someone's home system in a safe spot spooking the locals. They don't know if you are in a T1 frigate with a T1 cloak and no cyno, or if you are in an Arazu ready to drop a black ops fleet on anyone foolish enough to undock and try running havens.

So for all you frustrated Carebears out there who can't use their space right now, why not re-purpose your 24 some odd mining alts to prevent someone else from using their space.

First you'll need to fit up some cheap frigs with some cheap cloaking devices. Then look up whoever is griefing you today and find out where they live.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation

Then check which of their systems have the most ratting activity.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Deklein#npc24
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Branch#npc24

And then just put your alts in there, and leave them online, simple as that.


Maybe it'll work, and maybe it won't. But it'll give people something to do rather than impotently raging on the forums. And who knows, goon tears got titan tracking fixed, maybe goon tears will get AFK cloaking looked at. Now that I think about it the goons are probably more of a positive influence on the eve universe than people give them credit for (even if it is in the most ass way possible).

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-04-27 03:36:05 UTC
Nobody cloaks in goon space ever so they don't know how to deal with that Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Aggressive Nutmeg
#3 - 2012-04-27 04:13:18 UTC
Changed my mind. I've decided to do absolutely nothing.

I'm at work right now. In 4 hours, I'll be at the pub with my mates. In 12 hours, I'll be asleep.

In about 20 hours, I will wake up, login and go about my usual business probably for a few hours.

Caregoons are irrelevant to my existence in Eve.

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.

Macky Alcaz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-04-27 04:41:25 UTC
Wolodymyr wrote:
OK so you are pissed off at Burn Jita, or Hulkageddon, or OTEC, or whatever. And you persionally want to do something about it. That's an understandable instinct. But there are some things that won't work and some things that will work.

getting a fleet together and sending it into their space won't work. And you will explode in an embarrassing and halarious manner.

Donating money to people who say they are going to do something about it won't work. Unless it's me. You should give me lots of money.

Forum whine won't work because your ideas are terrible and will be ignored.

Counter ganking suicide gankers will sort of work, but you are just blowing up ships that were going to blow themselves up anyway.


But what if I was to tell you that there is something you can do on your own, that takes very little isk, very little SP, and very little actual piloting skills. But it can shut down an entire nullsec ratting / mining system.

If you don't know what AFK cloaking is, go look it up in the "Assembly Hall" or "Features and Ideas" find any thread about cloaking and AFK cloaking always comes up.

Basically you just sit cloaked in someone's home system in a safe spot spooking the locals. They don't know if you are in a T1 frigate with a T1 cloak and no cyno, or if you are in an Arazu ready to drop a black ops fleet on anyone foolish enough to undock and try running havens.

So for all you frustrated Carebears out there who can't use their space right now, why not re-purpose your 24 some odd mining alts to prevent someone else from using their space.

First you'll need to fit up some cheap frigs with some cheap cloaking devices. Then look up whoever is griefing you today and find out where they live.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation

Then check which of their systems have the most ratting activity.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Deklein#npc24
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Branch#npc24

And then just put your alts in there, and leave them online, simple as that.


Maybe it'll work, and maybe it won't. But it'll give people something to do rather than impotently raging on the forums. And who knows, goon tears got titan tracking fixed, maybe goon tears will get AFK cloaking looked at. Now that I think about it the goons are probably more of a positive influence on the eve universe than people give them credit for (even if it is in the most ass way possible).



THIS IS A VERY GOOD IDEA PLEASE OBEY
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Commonwealth Vanguard
#5 - 2012-04-27 10:02:13 UTC
Maybe im missing something, some major point in thsi plan perhaps.. If pilots are sacking Jita and sploding people in hisec, why would they be afraid of an afk cloaker out in nullsec?
just saying.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.

Sutskop
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-04-27 13:16:30 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
Maybe im missing something, some major point in thsi plan perhaps.. If pilots are sacking Jita and sploding people in hisec, why would they be afraid of an afk cloaker out in nullsec?
just saying.


This.
In the end, the remaining ratters in nullsec will have nothing to do now and join the Jita fleets. Masterplan!
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-27 16:41:49 UTC
Screw Jita.

I'm going to go drop bags o' flaming poo* on the doorsteps of Goon POS' and outposts. Simply because I can.
And I'm not going to cloak up to do it, either.

Sure, I'll get most likely get blown-up. Don't care. Will just hop into the next free n00bship and do it again. Meanwhile, everyone will have a good time - Goons chasing me, and me giggling as I turf the lawns on my joyride.

that should keep at least one or two Goons out of Jita. For a short while.
















*Actually renamed containers called just that: "Bag o' Flaming Poo."

EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate.

Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#8 - 2012-04-28 08:16:47 UTC
Sutskop wrote:
In the end, the remaining ratters in nullsec will have nothing to do now and join the Jita fleets. Masterplan

So, if I am reading you right, everyone in null will say, "Whelp can't go ratting / mining because of AFK cloakers. I guess I'll go suicide ganking in highsec."

Then people in highsec will say, "Whelp can't go ratting / mining because of suicide gankers. I guess I'll go AFK cloaking"

Then the whole thing will create a self feeding cycle until all of highsec is pissed off goons, and all of deklien is nothing but pissed off cloaked up carebears. Then the entire situation will boil down to which group of emotionally unbalanced neckbears can stay pissed off the longest.


Wolodymyr wrote:
getting a fleet together and sending it into their space won't work. And you will explode in an embarrassing and halarious manner.
Subdolus Venator wrote:
I'm going to go drop bags o' flaming poo* on the doorsteps of Goon POS' and outposts. Simply because I can. And I'm not going to cloak up to do it, either.
Oh well screw it, I tried.

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544

Nbonga
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-04-28 09:35:44 UTC
Wolodymyr wrote:

*snip*

Then the whole thing will create a self feeding cycle until all of highsec is pissed off goons, and all of deklien is nothing but pissed off cloaked up carebears. Then the entire situation will boil down to which group of emotionally unbalanced neckbears can stay pissed off the longest.



Made my day. Champion.

Can I borrow "emotionally unbalanced neckbears" please?
Tenebrae Syrennis
Abattoir Research and Development
#10 - 2012-04-28 10:15:30 UTC
Flaming poop...

Bags of it, even!

I have come to eat all your brains.

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-04-28 10:23:07 UTC
afk cloaking does not involve making isk so don't expect your idea to gain much steam with the hisec crowd

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

qDoctor Strangelove
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-04-28 17:26:20 UTC
Subdolus Venator wrote:
Screw Jita.

I'm going to go drop bags o' flaming poo* on the doorsteps of Goon POS' and outposts. Simply because I can.
And I'm not going to cloak up to do it, either.

Sure, I'll get most likely get blown-up. Don't care. Will just hop into the next free n00bship and do it again. Meanwhile, everyone will have a good time - Goons chasing me, and me giggling as I turf the lawns on my joyride.

that should keep at least one or two Goons out of Jita. For a short while.




*Actually renamed containers called just that: "Bag o' Flaming Poo."



It will not be Goons that chase you, it will be all the roaming gangs that is roaming the CFC space that will chase you. Goons give no fucks until you siege POS.
Katja Faith
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-04-28 18:01:36 UTC
Wut?? *looks confused*

Someone has been drinking their bath water again...