Ships & Modules

Current situation with Caldari gunships:
1) CCP cannot really improve them because if they did, Caldari gunships would overlap or take over Gallente gunships.
2) If CCP improved railgun damage to improve Caldari gunships, they may end up as overpowered on Gallente gunships with the damage bonus.
3) Caldari gunships only really exist because missiles have no instant damage which is terrible in fleet fights.
4) Caldari who trained missiles find them useless on half of their ships.

Suggestion
1) Turn all the Caldari gunships into missile ships with bonuses to use a new kind of high-speed missile that causes instant or near-instant (but low) damage.

Then CCP is free to design the Caldari and Gallente ship lines free of limitations due to using the same weapon system (hybrids) for 2 lines.
CCP will then be free to let loose creativity on all kinds of interesting missiles for Caldari ships to shake up tactics.
And they can then buff the Megathron to be strong without having to be concerned about the knock-on effects to the Rokh.
Think about it.

5% damage 10% range bonus. Interesting and not bad.
Problem still remains though for boosting Caldari gunships.
They end up competing directly with Gallente gunships and have severe problems differentiating themselves.

I say, just delink the whole 2 lines. No more same weapons for both.
Let Caldari and Gallente design develop independently into missiles and hybrids respectively.
This would give rise to more variety overall, provided new missile types are innovated.

OK, well perhaps Caldari and Gallente gunships can each find their niche.
Still I don't think they are differentiated from each other to the extent they would be if they used totally different types of weapons.
(Hybrids and missiles).
Besides I feel missiles are not innovated enough to fully bring out that weapon's flavor.
There should be certain types of missiles only Caldari can use on special bonused ships that are viable in instant-damage situations like fleet fights that are still fundamentally different from other weapons.

Yeah, I get your point.
However, pros and cons and limitations can easily be created to allow them to be viable only on the current sniping role Caldari ships. For example, give them pathetic damage except on certain bonused ships, high fitting requirements except on certain ships with fitting bonuses etc etc.
For example, make the instant missiles do 50% the damage of regular missiles and give the Rokh a 50% bonus to the damage of these missiles.

Alternatively, it could be not a new type of missile but a special module that reduces missile flight time that is fitable only to a small number of Caldari ships.
eg. Missile Warp Generator. 10000 CPU, Effect: Warps missiles, cutting missile flight time to 0.
Rokh bonus: -9900CPU to fit Missile Warp Generator.

Micro Jump Missile Launchers. Similar to how a micro-jump drive can teleport your ship 100km, the micro-jump launchers teleport/warp your missiles to within a few seconds flight time of the target. Downside would be that the launchers require cap. The other downside is that it makes defender missiles even less useful (not to imply that defenders are useful now.)

In fleets the problem is not the damage. Its the delay in damage that renders Caldari ships quite useless in large gangs where the primary is dead from the other races' ships guns before the missiles even reach it.
This is why the raven is laughed at in many fleet doctrines, and missile users are often seen as lolol carebearrrr.
This is why CCP has the Rokh as a gunship not a missile ship. Because otherwise the Caldari has no viable instant damage ship for large fleet warfare.
This is why missiles are a small niche in PVP used only on a relatively small number of ships instead of an equal counterpart to projectiles, lasers and hybrids.

Yeah. There are is a lot of overlap between gunships in the Caldari and Gallente lines.
For example also the Brutix and Ferox in the BC class.


nice. MJM MicroJump Missles. Cap hungry is a good idea.

Lock on after launch option for cruise missiles.
Area of effect damage for Torps.

Thank you please :)

wouldnt it just be easier to drastically increase missile velocities while reducing the flight time to compensate

I would be much more inclined to fly missile ships if i didnt have to wait as long for the damage to be applied

TBH, im not sure there will be many people against this proposed change

They need to be removed from the game anyway

Give Gellente moar drones!!!!