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http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=52796

looks like he did!

Say a person who wants to destroy the eve sandbox.

Not quite one-sentence, but close enough:

"Guys! Guys! This is the Mittani, and I swear, I and mine are still relevant! Really, we really are! Ummm...guys? Where you all goin', guys? Hey, come back!"

(Slowly fading whisper/whimper) "Guys...?"

Pathetic little goon-fellator.

How's that goon-penis taste, then?

Failure.

Watch all episodes of Star Trek Voyager, I think the brain damage would be equivalent.

1/ if you want people to read your post and give some serious thought about it, you should divide the length 10 times

2/ we re talking about a game here, its not like the meaning of life, isn't it ?

3/ what's teh big deal if people want to be risk free in high sec ?

4/ why "carebears" would be second class Eve citizens ?

5/ you realize that full pvp centric games are bad business model , right?

6/ teh carebears dont want to transform eve online into full pve, they just want to be left in peace in high sec minding their own business , whats wrong with that ? aren't they paying customers as you are ?

7/ following point 6, its seems to me that its rather you who want to impose your view about how htis game should be played

8/ there is more "carebears in low/null sec that in high sec, what's exactly blobbing apart try to outnumber your ennemies in order to not loose your ship ? why do you need 0.0 jump bridge, upgraded systems , and ocean of blue 20 jumps aroudn if you re so hardcore ?

9/ let the people play the game as they want , there is no better way of playing , be it pve or pvp, high sec or low or null sec. If you re so eager to pvp, why do you spend time ganking defenseless miners in high sec ?

Good read; very true, but I'd put an addendum in the last post:

A lot of people with little economic sense and a lot of impotent rage think that you're saying it will be a rainbow paradise if mining is removed from EVE. You should drive home that the inflation we're seeing is because of nullsec belt/sanctum botters and their as profitable (remember the "Should nullsec be equal to or more profitable than highsec?" meme?), but four times as pretentious counterparts, highsec mission botters. Trit wouldn't cost more than 1.5 ISK/u if no one would pay that much, and the producers who made less profit off selling their assembled ravens and drakes would turn around and buy the same things they're buying now, just at a lower price. The flood of ISK coming in each day from automated sources is what's giving you your high prices, not your supply of minerals. Cutting the supply of minerals would only raise the price if the economy is in a perpetual state of inflation that will pay them increasing prices for the same thing.

Lets say you fatties sold hotdogs for a living, and you could for some reason alter events in history. Now if you curbed the effects of inflation that over time took your hotdogs from $0.25 to $1.50 (I haven't bought a hot dog at a stand in years, I don't know, these prices are arbitrary), would you still charge $1.50 to keep making the same amount of revenue, even though your expenses were 1/6th what they'd normally be? No, not if you wanted to stay in business anyways. As this economy is a network of items tied together, like a real one, you'd take your profits off your $0.25 hotdogs, and go to another stand after you sold a few, and buy yourself a $0.25 hamburger, because they wouldn't have raised their price either.

illegally exploited ISK faucets are the reason for your ship prices. That's not what this is about. It is about breaking the fundamental principles of this game: a game of risk-to-reward ratios where the least risky place is adequately rewarding to not go out to greener pastures. Pastures that were greened with the most underrated fertilizer in history: blood.

3) not the game for them
4) bottom rung of the ladder
5) counterpoint: eve's been running since 2003 just fine

Counter-counter point: in the "golden age" of super pro committed PVPers EvE counted 30k subs, not 300k.

You need the bottom rungs of the ladders. As a bonus they give many baddies the feeling of being pro.




I join an hi sec mercs corp doing exactly this every day since about a week (have 0 industry skills on this character anyway).
What you say does not work, you seem only to have practice on the forums.

If you want to really kill suicide gankers there's a quite delicate SEBO insta-lock setup that works when the ganker gets there (most are -10 sec), involving at least 2 ships. The defending group has miner + 2 required high skilled pilots.
Even then, it takes few seconds not paying total attention and something like a Mackinaw will be melted in few instants under your eyes.


Also, apathy, really? The bots have been mostly wiped off, even in ice belts. Bots were nicely squashed by CCP Sreegs, there are 1-2 in 10 now (were 8 in 10 till before Fanfest).
The other miners woke up, started hiring defense merc corps, they communicate incoming known hostiles and so on.
Stop the prejudices, times are changing. Slowly but surely.