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Terrible launcher is terrible.

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Citrute
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2012-04-27 14:43:49 UTC
CCP, please use one method of patching. It is unreasonable and unnecessary to both patch with the launcher, and inside the client itself.


What was wrong with delivering patches in the client and running the repair tool when it doesn't work.
Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-04-27 14:44:40 UTC
CCP isnt like other mainstream developers :)

People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back -  EvE

Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-04-27 14:48:56 UTC
INB4 Lock.
SlapNuts
Lost Wacko's
#4 - 2012-04-27 14:58:16 UTC
Citrute wrote:
CCP, please use one method of patching. It is unreasonable and unnecessary to both patch with the launcher, and inside the client itself.


What was wrong with delivering patches in the client and running the repair tool when it doesn't work.


oh thought this was about missle launchers =P
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#5 - 2012-04-27 15:17:42 UTC
If you don't like the launcher play a game without one.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it

Citrute
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2012-04-27 15:20:37 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
If you don't like the launcher play a game without one.




I do
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#7 - 2012-04-27 15:33:02 UTC
Citrute wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
If you don't like the launcher play a game without one.




I do


Ohhhh ....

¬.¬

Thats marvelous!

Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco

Emeos
Half Empty
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#8 - 2012-04-27 15:33:26 UTC
Some people just never are happy
Citrute
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2012-04-27 15:52:43 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:

Ohhhh ....

¬.¬

Thats marvelous!



You're welcome.


If any mods are reading this, feel free to take notes.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2012-04-27 16:42:48 UTC
Brilliantly there is also an option in the launcher to do what you achieved in your shortcut.

Additionally, we have been publishing manual patch for quite some time now, to give people who are affected by some of the launcher edge cases an alternative way of patching if the repair tool fails.

Finally, it is obviously the goal to have client updates contained within the launcher. It, like all of our features, is developed in iterations and will continue to have its feature set expanded.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

Francisco Bizzaro
#11 - 2012-04-27 16:48:10 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Brilliantly there is also an option in the launcher to do what you achieved in your shortcut.

Additionally, we have been publishing manual patch for quite some time now, to give people who are affected by some of the launcher edge cases an alternative way of patching if the repair tool fails.

Finally, it is obviously the goal to have client updates contained within the launcher. It, like all of our features, is developed in iterations and will continue to have its feature set expanded.

Unfortunately, my launcher doesn't even get to the point of finding the manual patch before throwing an exception.

A few days ago you were offering patches as .exe files - can you do that again, please? I'm stuck at Wednesday's version.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#12 - 2012-04-27 16:50:38 UTC
Francisco Bizzaro wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Brilliantly there is also an option in the launcher to do what you achieved in your shortcut.

Additionally, we have been publishing manual patch for quite some time now, to give people who are affected by some of the launcher edge cases an alternative way of patching if the repair tool fails.

Finally, it is obviously the goal to have client updates contained within the launcher. It, like all of our features, is developed in iterations and will continue to have its feature set expanded.

Unfortunately, my launcher doesn't even get to the point of finding the manual patch before throwing an exception.

A few days ago you were offering patches as .exe files - can you do that again, please? I'm stuck at Wednesday's version.


The exe files are the manual patches I was talking about, with the Launcher being an autopatcher. Have you tried running the repair tool?

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

Citrute
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2012-04-27 16:58:15 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Brilliantly there is also an option in the launcher to do what you achieved in your shortcut.

Are you talking about the big yellow play button?

Not shown is the other shortcut for my ntfs junction. Please educate me on how i can launch multiple clients across separate monitors with different settings using the launcher. Because i dont see it.

CCP Goliath wrote:

Additionally, we have been publishing manual patch for quite some time now, to give people who are affected by some of the launcher edge cases an alternative way of patching if the repair tool fails.

Please continue to do so. It is a service that is needed.

CCP Goliath wrote:

Finally, it is obviously the goal to have client updates contained within the launcher. It, like all of our features, is developed in iterations and will continue to have its feature set expanded.

When it's feature incomplete or it doesn't work, just say iterate. Because that fixes everything. Honestly, why couldn't this launcher be rolled out when you no longer need to push patches through the client?
Mathias Hex
#14 - 2012-04-27 23:29:18 UTC
Hmm only problem I had with the launcher is all the links are broken...

I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k.

Francisco Bizzaro
#15 - 2012-04-28 06:49:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Francisco Bizzaro
CCP Goliath wrote:
The exe files are the manual patches I was talking about, with the Launcher being an autopatcher.

Since Wednesday you have been providing patches as ".patch" files in this thread. Where can I get the exe files you are referring to?

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Have you tried running the repair tool?

Of course.

When the launcher was first released several weeks ago, I had to open a petition. In it you can find more than three weeks worth of interaction with a GM in which several things were tried, and logs sent. Send me a mail if you're interested in the petition reference.

The end result was the workaround which I suggested on day 1: Supply downloadable patch files which can be applied manually. And that was working very well until Wednesday, when you guys decided to change the procedure again to work through the launcher for some reason.

The particular problem I have is an exception very soon after clicking the launcher:
"No connection could be made to the content server. Please make sure that your Internet connection is up and restart the Launcher."
I don't know why it is trying to connect to a server when I am trying to install the already downloaded patch, which is in my Eve directory, as per your instructions.

I have opened a new petition three days ago which has been untouched. And there is a perfectly good thread in the Tech forum which is also being ignored. Should we move our conversation to one of those more appropriate venues?
Zanzil C
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-04-28 07:41:20 UTC
I honestly don't see what your problem is with in-launcher patching..... It's convenient, tidy and ...looks nice.
Francisco Bizzaro
#17 - 2012-04-28 07:51:30 UTC
Zanzil C wrote:
I honestly don't see what your problem is with in-launcher patching..... It's convenient, tidy and ...looks nice.

Mostly it's the "not working" part which bothers me (please read thread). But I'm a bit old-fashioned that way. Otherwise, I'm sure I would agree about the convenience and tidiness.
Pres Crendraven
#18 - 2012-04-28 08:05:26 UTC
It start working for me once I disabled my av and my firewall. Old trick, av's are so much more well behaved that nobody mentions it anymore but the patcher modifies a program and hierustics flag that and interrupt the process and the launcher doesn't recover gracefully from interruptions.

Or so it seems to me.

Meta34me

Corp and Alliance details hidden to protect the innocent.

Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#19 - 2012-04-28 08:08:26 UTC
Can we get an auto start of the game feature in the launcher if nothing has to be patched?

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.

Cierejai
Biofuel Productions
#20 - 2012-04-28 09:00:14 UTC
Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:
Can we get an auto start of the game feature in the launcher if nothing has to be patched?


There already is.
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