Ships & Modules

What exactly is your problem with them?

I think you need to take some Blue Pill. Or perhaps a little blue pill.

I don't know, but the best ammo to use is probably ROOR.

Anyone complaining about torps never took out enemy infrastructure. It's not as derp lazy as gayzors, but the damage and selectable resist is much better.

All you Caldari whiners need to read the excellent replies in this thread. Missiles are fine as a whole. Some missiles underperform. Some missiles underperform at certain tasks and in certain cituations. It is this way with all weapons systems. As many of the above replies have pointed out, missiles have always and continue to reign supreme in pve. The op pulled out the one portion of a pve environment where missiles are disadvantaged to turrets. Sure you won't get invites to run vanguards. Would you trade that for the drone killing of sleepers?

In pvp, OP, if noone's allowing you to fleet up in your Drake please let me know where. I want to join them. Because, you see, for a while Drakes have been clogging up fleet pvp.

Torps? Really?

Well making an incursion atm and artillery howitzer salvos are hitting for 10k dmg. 10k dmg!!! My each salvo hits for 1000-1100 dmg. Yes I fire twice often but still I am very far away from that damage. Yes I always hit but I don't think artilleries miss half of the time. Lets say they miss half of the time; still the damage output is more then twice of my damage output. If they miss 3/4 of the time they still more damage. There is definetely something wrong here and I can't beleive some people are defending missiles. Yes they have some uses but not that much when compared with non-missile weapons. The low damage is a HUGE drawback not even mentioning ridiculous t2 missile prices and their drawbacks on ship.

P.S Forgot to add half of my cargo space is always filled with missiles, they also took up so much cargo space

And I also made a mistake by saying missile flight time is not hat much issue. Yes if you never waste a salvo then it is not issue but if you waste salvos then you are in deep trouble. Missile damage is delayed damage. So you had to be very careful about not sending any salvos on a probably dead target after a few seconds. Lets say your target is dead at 8th salvo and you have still 2 (wasted) salvos on the air then you will lose 20% of your dps. If your target dies in 3rd salvo and you have already sent another then it is a 25% dps loss for you. You really had to be careful about when your target is going to be destroyed if you do not want to waste any salvo and most of the time it is just a guess. Therefore already low missiles dps becomes a joke after losing more missiles to defender missiles and wasted salvos.

Funny how naive people are to just how insanely powerful missiles were before they were changed in 2005.

I know the Torpedo doesn't get the standard double weapon range increase other Missiles get. Even bringing it up so it's Rockets 10km, Assault 20km, Torpedo's 30km base would be a big help. Some Velocity Increases in some cases wuldn't be so bad.

Besides that the problems are mostly with the ships themselves. Give the Raven 7 Missile Launchers like the drake has and a 7 Mid / 4 Low Slot Split with a little extra grid for Torpedo's and a tiny bit more Scan Res and I think the Ship would take off. Caracal with more Grid for HAM's and Tank or HML and Tank without needing an RCU, full Drone Bay, Extra Low Slot and the HP Buffs that come with the removal of the Tier System. More fitting and an extra mid for the Kessie. Double Velocity Bonus for the Cerberus.

Lots more things you could do for ships that use missiles then you could ever do to the Missiles themselves. Drake and Tengu are built to support there weapons. Nothing else is built that well and that is the major problem.