EVE General Discussion

For me was always clear, if background was red and flashy and no mater if with GCC or withaut GCC i was able aways to shot.

Btw remove concord because they useless, freighters pilots die even if 100 concord police officers spawn before kamikaze atac, concord are just additional chaos and drop of FPS on scren.

What is allowed is to shoot the ship of a criminal (or someone that you have killrights on), not the pod.

Unless you are at war with the said persons corporation it was never allowed to shoot on pods (even the flashy ones) in high security systems.
That is what I remember at least

The rules are there. Laid out in the official wiki. How am I supposed to know it works differently that it says there?

So that means everyone whom gets concorded in Jita or shooting the blinky PODs will get thier ships reimbursement back in what 3-4 weeks after they finally get to them due to the backlog this has obvoiusly created? The Sec Status I'm sure will take as least as long to fix

Taking the tinfoil hats off for a moment;

The recent crimewatch revamp may have some unintended bugs.

Also TiDi was designed for null sec and so was probably never full tested with the crimewatch system.

So here's the rules:
* You can freely kill a pod if the pilot is an outlaw (below -5 sec status)
* You can't kill a pod if the pilot just has a GCC. If you try, you'll get the non-suppressible "Are you sure? CONCORD will wtfpwn you if you do this" dialog
This has always been the case

Normally someone with GCC will show up as red. What changed with Escalation was that we removed a special case in the UI that suppressed this red if they had GCC AND were in a pod. Now someone with GCC will always show up as red, regardless of their ship. However you will stil get punished if you kill a GCC pod BUT only if you click 'Yes' to the CONCORD question.

I do agree this can be a little confusing, and we're looking at adjusting it a little based on feedback such as this.

Quoted because nobody listens to this sort of post.
There really are some wildly sick people playing eve, whether or not the game will concentrate them and fall over sideways due to their toxic influence remains to be seen.
This stuff is just punk nonsense anyway, ever heard of Demonfuge Malevolent?

They didn't remove any form of suppression. In the Escalation patch, CCP modified how pods of pilots who have a GCC timer are displayed on the overview. Prior to Escalation, these pods would appear like any other pod (white) unless the pilot was an outlaw, meaning their security status was below -5.0. In this instance (being an outlaw), their pod would appear red on the overview, so everyone knew they could legally shoot the pod - if they could catch it. Because the GCC pods were white, they knew that they could not legally shoot this pods without facing the wrath of CONCORD.

With Escalation, this was changed so that pods belonging to pilots who just went GCC appear as red on the overview. In fact, they are indistinguishable from outlaw pods at a glance - with the only differentiating factor being the security status displayed in your 'Selected Item' window. What's happening now, is that people who have their "CONCORD will blow you up if you shoot this" warning permanently suppressed are getting CONCORDed for shooting pods that are red.

Part of this is people being stupid, the rest is CCP being, well, CCP, and 'fixing' a 'bug' that has made gameplay both more difficult and more obscure without actually thinking about the consequences.

I appreciate the reply, but by 'suppression' I meant when CCP Masterplan said,

Perhaps I should have asked, "What was the goal of this change"? or something. A flashy red GCC pod doesn't convey any useful information (I think?) especially when everything else that is flashy is shootable

Just let us kill them regardless of outlaw or GCC and the confusion is removed.