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Level 4 mission's moving to lowsec

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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#81 - 2012-04-26 18:31:35 UTC
or just replace level 4 and 5 missions with Incursions, focus more on team work which is what an online world is about no?
Barakkus
#82 - 2012-04-26 18:47:28 UTC
Roime wrote:
[quote=Sigurd Sig Hansen] low/null is not nearly as dangerous as they think


Lowsec is mostly empty, I can rat there for hours upon hours and not see a single person try to engage me. Although when I go to my usual areas, people think there's a gank coming and usually leave system lol.

Most of the time lowsec is probably safer than highsec really.

The few times I've messed around in npc null, it's mostly empty too, every once in a while you'll see a gang of 30 or so passing through but most of the time it's pretty empty.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#83 - 2012-04-26 18:55:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
The only place eve is dangerous is at pinch points. Docks in popular systems, trade hubs, Gates at border regions from low/high, null/high, and static wormholes, 0.5 systems along popular hauler routes and ice belts.

Other than that, Eve is empty and that is pretty much a LARGE % of the Eve universe.
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#84 - 2012-04-26 19:08:05 UTC
Miilla wrote:
The only place eve is dangerous is at pinch points. Docks in popular systems, trade hubs, Gates at border regions from low/high, null/high, and static wormholes, 0.5 systems along popular hauler routes and ice belts.

Other than that, Eve is empty and that is pretty much a LARGE % of the Eve universe.


>docks in popular systems
>gates at border regions

You're going to be interacting with one or both of those fairly regularly if you want to do level 4 missions in lowsec. That's another problem with missioning vs ratting. You're tied to a specific agent in a specific station that you need to visit regularly. Atleast with ratting and plexing all you need is a random station or POS to drop off loot and pick up ammo in.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2012-04-26 19:08:55 UTC
Level 4 mission's WHAT is moving to lowsec?

Dodixie > Hek
Spurty
#86 - 2012-04-26 20:34:27 UTC
Get off the gate and find the other low sec guys that want to fight, pew pew more, cry about people that don't want to pvp less.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#87 - 2012-04-26 20:45:10 UTC
Takseen wrote:
Miilla wrote:
The only place eve is dangerous is at pinch points. Docks in popular systems, trade hubs, Gates at border regions from low/high, null/high, and static wormholes, 0.5 systems along popular hauler routes and ice belts.

Other than that, Eve is empty and that is pretty much a LARGE % of the Eve universe.


>docks in popular systems
>gates at border regions

You're going to be interacting with one or both of those fairly regularly if you want to do level 4 missions in lowsec. That's another problem with missioning vs ratting. You're tied to a specific agent in a specific station that you need to visit regularly. Atleast with ratting and plexing all you need is a random station or POS to drop off loot and pick up ammo in.



Risk vs reward, currently there is hardly any risk in PvE yet they get rewarded.
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#88 - 2012-04-26 20:57:30 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Takseen wrote:
Miilla wrote:
The only place eve is dangerous is at pinch points. Docks in popular systems, trade hubs, Gates at border regions from low/high, null/high, and static wormholes, 0.5 systems along popular hauler routes and ice belts.

Other than that, Eve is empty and that is pretty much a LARGE % of the Eve universe.


>docks in popular systems
>gates at border regions

You're going to be interacting with one or both of those fairly regularly if you want to do level 4 missions in lowsec. That's another problem with missioning vs ratting. You're tied to a specific agent in a specific station that you need to visit regularly. Atleast with ratting and plexing all you need is a random station or POS to drop off loot and pick up ammo in.



Risk vs reward, currently there is hardly any risk in PvE yet they get rewarded.


And I'm telling you why the current RISK for level 4s in lowsec is too high for the existing REWARD.

Battleships are one problem. Lengthy missions are another. Look at the Gallente and Caldari epic arcs for reference. The highsec missions are lengthy and require a battleship or a pimped out T2/T3 cruiser/BC. The lowsec missions could probably be done in a cruiser or stealthbomber, and are mostly just hit and run affairs.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#89 - 2012-04-27 23:32:41 UTC
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