EVE New Citizens Q&A

1. Generally, it's "manufacturing" here (you'll get flamed if you keep calling it crafting if you're more than a few weeks old).
2. Minerals you mine are not free.
3. Production Efficiency 5
4. Research*, then more research, then build stuff, then even more research.


*Research in the sense that you're gonna be looking at the market for things to sell at a profit.

The research people are talking about:


Many things don't really make a profit. Don't assume things will. Check them all. Assume mineral costs are what you would buy the minerals from, from /sell/ orders. not by using buy orders.


Something that might help. The blueprint calculator on my site. It won't tell you what to make (as a newcomer, look at ammo). But it will run the numbers quickly for you, at jita sell prices.

Thank you for the advice. Eve is so much deeper than any other game I have played.

I'll certainly look into getting production efficiency 5 and then do some research on what items could make a profit.

Don't know if you're considering T2 production, but I'm having much fun with that. It's pretty satisfying to hit "Deliver" on an Invention job and get the "Congratulations, you have a [Hound, Jaguar, Vagabond, Warp Core Stabilizer II, whatever] blueprint." Even though you get more failures on Invention jobs then successes (that's just the way the odds are for a lot of items). Then manufacturing the T2 stuff is fun as well. You need your basic minerals, plus more exotic stuff such as Fullerides, Armor Plates, Thermonuclear Triggers, etc. That adds a whole other level of having to shop right to limit costs and maximize profit. Some components are scarce in the market, therefore overpriced. So I've started manufacturing those myself. Which adds another level-- building and selling components needed for T2 manufacturing. I've seen some good profit in that.

In the end, Invention and manufacturing T2 stuff involves so making so many decisions that it's really pretty absorbing. And there's some excitement along the way, because eventually you'll be wanting to use the R&D agents and research facilities found in low sec. Hold full of BPs, hit a gate camp, shields and armor going all red, "Warp Drive Active"....

But note-- Getting skills up for Invention is a big investment, in training time and isk. The skill books are expensive. If you go the Invention route, you need to at it for a while. It takes some time to even get your isk back on what you paid for skill books.

OK. Thank you all for the advice. I have something to investigate now.

Not that I claim to be some sort of industry expert, but I'm not really sure which skills need to be trained other than PEIV...hell, you can get started with PE I-III if you don't insist on selling in Jita.

Science and Industry is quite skill intensive...even more cash intensive...and requires lots of "waiting" on **** to finish.

At the same time, it can be immensely profitable once you're in the swing of it. Best choice is to join a corp that will pass material to you for production, so you can concentrate on your industrial or scientific pursuits.

As someone else said...you should also be combat-capable. BC's would be a good place to stop.

If I had the time I'd be rich in industry.
Unfortunately I also like pvp a lot so time spent chasing materials or research agents or what not doesn't really exist.
Still I've found my niche, I make lots of isk in game when I put my hart into making it.

Location, location, location and item to provide to market are vital to making a living out of it.
Short answer; yes - definately viable, but it takes work to make it work.

Worth noting that you can train your trade skills to a reasonable level comparatively quickly. If you focus on this area early on it'll come in useful later, and you can start getting a grounding in how the market works while you're waiting on your production training.

But do take the previous advice and get some combat training in too.

Minerals are never, ever free. If you sell the finished product for less than the value of the minerals used to make it, you're not making a profit. Your net worth is in fact decreasing. This is extremely basic economics. I'm a combat player and even I understand this stuff. Stop giving newbies terrible advice.