Crime & Punishment

Awwwwwww...

OP idea strikes me as... well intentioned but kind of absurd.

But... if you wanted to make something like this halfway plausible... change:

1) Unprovoked (criminal) kills occurring in 1.0 to 0.9 would result in CONCORD attacking the offender's pod as well, not just their ship. Or that a bounty for their pod be automatically posted by CONCORD after the destruction of their ship, open kill rights to everyone for 15 minutes etc etc, equal to the current insurance value of the destroyed ship at the time of it's destruction. Said bounty would be temporary and expire when kill rights do.

2) Unprovoked (criminal) kills occurring in 0.8 to 0.7 would result in CONCORD allowing open kill rights of the offender's ship and pod for 15 minutes, etc etc. No free bounty, however. Still, anyone can retaliate, regardless of affiliation.

3) Unprovoked (criminal) kills occurring in 0.6 to 0.5 would only provoke the usual, currently existing CONCORD response. However, victim (and their corp) would get 15 minutes of kill rights against the offender's ship and pod.

4) Sectors 0.4 to 0.1 are as previously, ergo no CONCORD response, but a 15 minute kill rights flag against the attacker's ship only would be given to the victim and their corp. Pod still off limits (which really just means potential security standing loss).

5) Null sec is still a free-fire zone as before.

Suicide ganking still possible, but the consequences would go up proportionately depending on where it is done, due to the risk to the would-be ganker's pod.

Addenum: Include a general overhaul of bounty system to forbid bounties from being collected by anyone in that target's alliance, to end bounty exploiting (ergo, having your friend blow you up and then splitting the reward).

New people come in that don't need their noses wiped for them?

Wait, what ?

New people that come in that don't need their noses wiped for them....


Do you understand what you type ? Do you even play Eve ? (And if you do can you remember your first few months playing ?)
You must be delusional if you think that ANY new player that joins Eve doesn;t need some help, somewhere.

But yeah, new people join Eve everyday.







Not a lot stay though. Otherwise the subscriptions would have passed the million mark over a year ago, given the hype and proclamations that were made when the 500k mark got busted. Further to that, I wonder how many of them still play. From the 500k I mean. Another thought on the same treadmill of doom would be on the subject of actual online gaming players. I log in and see the new launcher saying 38k players. I see it 4 times as I have 4 accounts...and that's usually during evening when the majority log in. If i have 4 accounts and using hte rule of thumb on that it means this game is supported for a total player base of about 12,000 people. During peak times. Chilling thoughts on the "reality" of a sandbox with no restrictions in this day and age where the internet runs globally and connects 9 billion people... or more.

You recall incorrectly. CCP clearly defines griefing so that players will not be able to make up or "recall" their own definitions. It is ludicrously doubtful CCP uses a more-than decade old first person shooting game (or anything "pre-Eve") except Eve terms and Eve gameplay to define griefing rules for a far future space MMORPG.

You are correct, however, in implicating that CCP does not consider suicide ganking as griefing, since it is usually profitable and possible to avoid. However, repeatedly harassing the same player with no benefit would more than likely be considered griefing, especially if the player does not know better.
CCP defines griefing here:
http://support.eveonline.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=336

It is available for all players (including ganked ones) to read, and should clear up any questions or "historical recollections". The removal of insurance to suiciding ships is one feature implemented by CCP to discourage ganking, but it remains profitable, making it a valid gameplay tactic currently.

I DO find item 4 on this page to be interesting, though
http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.asp
but that is in regards to rulebreaking, not necessarily ganking.
Since constructive criticism is always better than "HTFU noob lol tears Im a pirat leave eve", I suggest the OP take some time to familiarize themselves with commonly accepted gameplay vs. griefing so there is less ambiguity, as your proposal is unlikely to be implemented.

Tonight's weather: a GM, DEV, or ISD locking the thread because they don't want to discuss the rules of their own product and company, even though grey areas are their own fault.