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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#21 - 2012-04-27 19:54:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Pohbis
Used car salesmen must love the OP.

The ability to read, does not imply the ability to comprehend.

Read those terms again, then please come back to us and tell us were you went wrong.

Roll

( PS. sorry you can't join your CFC friends because they all managed to log in before you. Anonymous forum alt. ).
Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-04-27 19:59:24 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Jita has a population cap in place to solve the very issue of server load. If you keep trying to log in you will eventually get there.

This is good. I can see other businesses trying this.

"We took your money, so just keep trying to get in the game!"

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-04-27 20:05:24 UTC
ccp should fix the issue with the log in window. you have to restart the clinet and try again.... why? why can't you fix something so simple yet it effects 1000s of people a day?

is it just really old code?

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#24 - 2012-04-27 20:05:35 UTC
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Jita has a population cap in place to solve the very issue of server load. If you keep trying to log in you will eventually get there.

This is good. I can see other businesses trying this.

"We took your money, so just keep trying to get in the game!"


3rd party facepalm

Jita isn't the only system in the game, if it was then you'd have a point, but it's not.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-04-27 20:17:32 UTC
Col Arran wrote:
This is unacceptable, I am not able to log into the Jita system because it is unable to accept new connections. This is 100% unacceptable and is affecting my experience.

File a petition. I am sure that some friendly GM will be able to teleport you and your freighter right outside 4-4 to start you day. This thing is caused by nasty bug in jita specific space time code anyway.

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
#26 - 2012-04-27 20:18:31 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD LoneLynx
Rich traders get priority. I logged in without issues.**** it up.

Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524
Tore Vest
#27 - 2012-04-27 20:26:44 UTC
Cool...
Its easy to pop haulers stuck on Jita gate...

No troll.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-04-27 20:29:16 UTC


http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r188/buddahcjcc/?action=view&current=JitaBurns.jpg

that is why lol

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Coldfire Trilogy
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-04-27 20:35:13 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Coldfire Trilogy wrote:
Actually, the fact that there's a limited number of people allowed while one system over the restriction ceases to exist means it IS instanced...but, there is only one instance OF Jita.
…which means it isn't instanced. Instancing happens when you duplicate a location to let more people be in it than the population cap (be it hardwired or dynamically load-balanced) would allow.

If only a single copy of a location exists, then it is not instanced. EVE does not support instancing — it doesn't exist in the code. There is only one of every system; one of every grid; one of every location, no matter what. The reason we have the current situation is because there is no instancing: no copies of Jita can be made to allow more people to be in that system.

The day they start duplicating systems and give us a drop-down to let us select which version of the system we want to be in we can start to talk about instances. Until then, the fact remains: instancing does not exist in EVE.


That's what WoW made instances mean, that's not what the WORD instance means... don't get the two confused. Even GW cities were instanced. Even if there was only one INSTANCE of each one, it was still an instance that multiple people not in a group could all join at the same time, too many people join and it would make a second instance. Eve doesn't allow that second instance and restricts each game area to one singular instance, its still broken up into segments per system ... aka an instance aka not seamless open world hence loading screens between warps etc. : | Not sure how hard that is to comprehend.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#30 - 2012-04-27 20:43:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Coldfire Trilogy wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Coldfire Trilogy wrote:
Actually, the fact that there's a limited number of people allowed while one system over the restriction ceases to exist means it IS instanced...but, there is only one instance OF Jita.
…which means it isn't instanced. Instancing happens when you duplicate a location to let more people be in it than the population cap (be it hardwired or dynamically load-balanced) would allow.

If only a single copy of a location exists, then it is not instanced. EVE does not support instancing — it doesn't exist in the code. There is only one of every system; one of every grid; one of every location, no matter what. The reason we have the current situation is because there is no instancing: no copies of Jita can be made to allow more people to be in that system.

The day they start duplicating systems and give us a drop-down to let us select which version of the system we want to be in we can start to talk about instances. Until then, the fact remains: instancing does not exist in EVE.


That's what WoW made instances mean, that's not what the WORD instance means... don't get the two confused. Even GW cities were instanced. Even if there was only one INSTANCE of each one, it was still an instance that multiple people not in a group could all join at the same time, too many people join and it would make a second instance. Eve doesn't allow that second instance and restricts each game area to one singular instance, its still broken up into segments per system ... aka an instance aka not seamless open world hence loading screens between warps etc. : | Not sure how hard that is to comprehend.


It's easy to comprehend, you are the one that seems to be having trouble in that regard.

Is this seriously the first time you have seen traffic control in the game?

Just because your entrance is delayed slightly does not mean you are locked out, it simply means you need to wait your turn.

You can still go anywhere you wish in EVE and only in rare circumstances will your journey experience any delay, whatever you do in any location can be seen and interacted with by every other player in the game, and there are no seperate identical mirrors for other groups of players (outside of China, but thats a legal issue not a game design issue).

Stop parroting what trolls are saying in other threads.

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Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-04-27 20:48:53 UTC
Col Arran wrote:
This is unacceptable, I am not able to log into the Jita system because it is unable to accept new connections. This is 100% unacceptable and is affecting my experience.

I wanted to log into Jita to get some trading done in these times of trouble but guess what? I can't. I expect a resolution immediately, CCP had more than enough time to sufficiently reinforce the Jita node and they did not. Also I do not care if it is merely a political statement, for the lulz or whatever.


6. CONDUCT

A. Specifically Restricted Conduct

Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game.

1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.


Stated here plain and clear if the system is unable to accept new connections then I would say that is an unreasonable or disproportionately large load.


Goon alt complains about not being able to log in due to Goon shenanigans. Story at 6.
"If."
Josef Djugashvilis
#32 - 2012-04-27 21:01:06 UTC
Col Arran wrote:
This is unacceptable, I am not able to log into the Jita system because it is unable to accept new connections. This is 100% unacceptable and is affecting my experience.

I wanted to log into Jita to get some trading done in these times of trouble but guess what? I can't. I expect a resolution immediately, CCP had more than enough time to sufficiently reinforce the Jita node and they did not. Also I do not care if it is merely a political statement, for the lulz or whatever.


6. CONDUCT

A. Specifically Restricted Conduct

Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game.

1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.


Stated here plain and clear if the system is unable to accept new connections then I would say that is an unreasonable or disproportionately large load.


You have being playing Eve long enough to not post utter tosh like this.

Please stop.

This is not a signature.
TRUE ZER0
SILENT INC
#33 - 2012-04-27 21:01:45 UTC
No OP is right if Eve can't handle the volume they should stop selling subscriptions. Maybe spend a little less time on the forums harassing customers and a little more time fixing the game.

And don't give that shat about GM's not being Devs or whatever. If they can't fix the game fire them and fire someone who can.
Coldfire Trilogy
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-04-27 21:02:01 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Coldfire Trilogy wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Coldfire Trilogy wrote:
Actually, the fact that there's a limited number of people allowed while one system over the restriction ceases to exist means it IS instanced...but, there is only one instance OF Jita.
…which means it isn't instanced. Instancing happens when you duplicate a location to let more people be in it than the population cap (be it hardwired or dynamically load-balanced) would allow.

If only a single copy of a location exists, then it is not instanced. EVE does not support instancing — it doesn't exist in the code. There is only one of every system; one of every grid; one of every location, no matter what. The reason we have the current situation is because there is no instancing: no copies of Jita can be made to allow more people to be in that system.

The day they start duplicating systems and give us a drop-down to let us select which version of the system we want to be in we can start to talk about instances. Until then, the fact remains: instancing does not exist in EVE.


That's what WoW made instances mean, that's not what the WORD instance means... don't get the two confused. Even GW cities were instanced. Even if there was only one INSTANCE of each one, it was still an instance that multiple people not in a group could all join at the same time, too many people join and it would make a second instance. Eve doesn't allow that second instance and restricts each game area to one singular instance, its still broken up into segments per system ... aka an instance aka not seamless open world hence loading screens between warps etc. : | Not sure how hard that is to comprehend.


It's easy to comprehend, you are the one that seems to be having trouble in that regard.

Is this seriously the first time you have seen traffic control in the game?

Just because your entrance is delayed slightly does not mean you are locked out, it simply means you need to wait your turn.

You can still go anywhere you wish in EVE and only in rare circumstances will your journey experience any delay, whatever you do in any location can be seen and interacted with by every other player in the game, and there are no seperate identical mirrors for other groups of players (outside of China, but thats a legal issue not a game design issue).

Stop parroting what trolls are saying in other threads.


another person who doesnt understand what "instanced" means. I never mentioned a lock out, but the fact that an area can even have crowd control means there is something unique about it, and each system is its own entity separate from the rest. Im not even arguing for or against whats happening, I was merely pointing out how somehow at some point, everyone got this notion in their head that "instance" means separate area for a few people that can be duplicated as many times for multiple parties each identical to the last. All an instance is is a zone segregated (which each system is) from the rest, each one can have its own rules, its own load ins, everything that happens in one instance doesn't carry over to the next (sans economy). You cant fire a missile from one system and 3000 years from now have it hit another system Just like in wow you cant swim from Azeroth to Whatever other continent they have in that game. Each area, although a whole, is segregated from the rest by not only loading screens but also completely independent areas of influence which can be manipulated by CCP to fit stressors placed upon it by the community. I mean heck, CCP even mentioned themselves that they bolstered the hardware Jita is sitting on in preparation for this event ... I give up, fine whatever, the word instance now = WoWs limited scope of the word. Call each system what you want, its still the same thing in spirit.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#35 - 2012-04-27 21:02:17 UTC
use auto pilot

it bypasses traffic control
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#36 - 2012-04-27 21:05:10 UTC
He probably thinks that everywhere is instanced when he has to queue up outside, only one instance mind you, but still an instance obviously because that's how it works dontcha know, yes.

Quote:
Oh noez, I have to wait in line to get in, instanced coffee conspiracy!!!!

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#37 - 2012-04-27 21:08:03 UTC
Coldfire Trilogy wrote:

another person who doesnt understand what "instanced" means.


I think that's you, as we keep pointing out. Get the message yet Daphne?

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Blobber NL
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-04-27 21:12:57 UTC
i passed trough goon blockade, whit a ibis whit 4 caldari navy ballistic control systems, 1 pith A type shield booster, and 1 C type shield amplifier.



They obviously dont check rookie ships.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#39 - 2012-04-27 21:13:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Coldfire Trilogy wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Coldfire Trilogy wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Coldfire Trilogy wrote:
Actually, the fact that there's a limited number of people allowed while one system over the restriction ceases to exist means it IS instanced...but, there is only one instance OF Jita.
…which means it isn't instanced. Instancing happens when you duplicate a location to let more people be in it than the population cap (be it hardwired or dynamically load-balanced) would allow.

If only a single copy of a location exists, then it is not instanced. EVE does not support instancing — it doesn't exist in the code. There is only one of every system; one of every grid; one of every location, no matter what. The reason we have the current situation is because there is no instancing: no copies of Jita can be made to allow more people to be in that system.

The day they start duplicating systems and give us a drop-down to let us select which version of the system we want to be in we can start to talk about instances. Until then, the fact remains: instancing does not exist in EVE.


That's what WoW made instances mean, that's not what the WORD instance means... don't get the two confused. Even GW cities were instanced. Even if there was only one INSTANCE of each one, it was still an instance that multiple people not in a group could all join at the same time, too many people join and it would make a second instance. Eve doesn't allow that second instance and restricts each game area to one singular instance, its still broken up into segments per system ... aka an instance aka not seamless open world hence loading screens between warps etc. : | Not sure how hard that is to comprehend.


It's easy to comprehend, you are the one that seems to be having trouble in that regard.

Is this seriously the first time you have seen traffic control in the game?

Just because your entrance is delayed slightly does not mean you are locked out, it simply means you need to wait your turn.

You can still go anywhere you wish in EVE and only in rare circumstances will your journey experience any delay, whatever you do in any location can be seen and interacted with by every other player in the game, and there are no seperate identical mirrors for other groups of players (outside of China, but thats a legal issue not a game design issue).

Stop parroting what trolls are saying in other threads.


another person who doesnt understand what "instanced" means. I never mentioned a lock out, but the fact that an area can even have crowd control means there is something unique about it, and each system is its own entity separate from the rest. Im not even arguing for or against whats happening, I was merely pointing out how somehow at some point, everyone got this notion in their head that "instance" means separate area for a few people that can be duplicated as many times for multiple parties each identical to the last. All an instance is is a zone segregated (which each system is) from the rest, each one can have its own rules, its own load ins, everything that happens in one instance doesn't carry over to the next (sans economy). You cant fire a missile from one system and 3000 years from now have it hit another system Just like in wow you cant swim from Azeroth to Whatever other continent they have in that game. Each area, although a whole, is segregated from the rest by not only loading screens but also completely independent areas of influence which can be manipulated by CCP to fit stressors placed upon it by the community. I mean heck, CCP even mentioned themselves that they bolstered the hardware Jita is sitting on in preparation for this event ... I give up, fine whatever, the word instance now = WoWs limited scope of the word. Call each system what you want, its still the same thing in spirit.


Yes, different area's can have differing conditions, entry points and methods, etc. That does not, and never has (by any definition used in the gaming industry) meant they are "instanced".

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Ai Shun
#40 - 2012-04-27 21:22:50 UTC
Coldfire Trilogy wrote:
another person who doesnt understand what "instanced" means.


Quote:
I was merely pointing out how somehow at some point, everyone got this notion in their head that "instance" means separate area for a few people that can be duplicated as many times for multiple parties each identical to the last. All an instance is is a zone segregated (which each system is) from the rest ...


Probably because the word "Instance" does not mean what you think it means.

in·stance/ˈinstəns/
Noun:
An example or single occurrence of something: "an instance of corruption".
A particular case: "in this instance".

In gaming terms this is the most commonly accepted usage of instances. Are you not thinking of "zones"?