Crime & Punishment

FIrst off, I've admitably not tried the site, for a very simple reason. I heard of it through spam. So far I dare say 100% of the sites who have primarily marketed themselves through spam have been either proven scams or dubious(I won't list synergy as a scam, yes, the site owner wins most of the winnings, yes, it's probably unethical but not necessarily a scam). This is my personal experience and opinion, nothing else. It explains my lack of experience of your site.

As for the virustotal links, it's fairly pointless for a webmaster to point such a link. Not only are they obscenely inaccurate, but they're also relying on the current state of a site. If someone with access to the site posts a link to it, it's quite clearly not going to contain anything detectable at the moment. This is no different from a scammer in jita posting a screenshot of it's wallet to "prove his validity". Yes, digging up a cached version of the site MIGHT prove some more validity, sadly, I very much doubt anyone savvy and lets face it paranoid enough to keep such things would ever visit a site, such as this one.

As for the part about being unable to control where people spam, ALL other major lotteries and services have managed to do this quite well, to mention a few: BIG, Ships of EVE and Somer.Blink. None of them have any substantial amount of spam in public channels, and the rare occurence of such is typically handled by a slap on the wrist or removal of referral codes. There's no reason a site such as your own couldn't do the same.

You spammed your own forum topic with referral links when you had no reason to. Therefore, not only was that stupid, but it tells me quite conclusively that you gained access to those user accounts with a keylogger or trojan.

Well, that and the identical formatting, spelling and grammar of your "users".

I've seen lots of these links in local around hisec - I had assumed that the site just gave people a standard form message to spam with their referrer link. Outside of market hubs there seem to be quite a few who flit around highsec dropping off the advert in local for each system they pass through - you'll see the message in local, then a few seconds later they're gone from the member list.

I did once ask a spammer in local what the deal with the site was, and got an a reply and dialogue with the spammer, so there was definitely a human at the keyboard that time, though whether that human was the account owner or not I have no idea.

any site that needs spam in order to grow needs to burn with fire and GTFO

I guess I can eliminate the referral system for now.

On the note about the key logger, there is none. There is no worm, no virus, or any other malicious software.

@ Tauren Tom
Essence Riviera has indeed been hanging out in my EVEalopalous channel ;)

He probably made more ISK referring than doing whatever he did for your corp.

I will test what the site works like without the referral system soon.

To begin with, insulting my corporation and mates is intolerable. And we don't make anyone in our corporation do anything which they do not like nor do we require they participate in all events we hold. If you insist on attacking people and other corporations then you should do so in some semblance of fair play. Continuing to do such things merely lowers my overall opinion of you and your tactics. Play dirty and get a bad reputation if you so wish. No skin off my back.

Secondly, I linked to the results page which displays all of the tests undertaken and not merely the test evidencing a detected issue. I play fair and don't omit the facts that can be used for both sides. If you only post one side of the story don't expect the rest of the community to be any better in their rebuttals.

Spam = annoying

Using spam to advertise your site makes you look desperate.
Especially using spam as 'we are better then this and that site! For no other reason then because we spam more!

So no this all does not make your site annoying, it makes your advertising strategy anoying.
As do your replies to many people in this topic.

Meh, honesty can be annoying I guess.

And I didn't tell anyone how to advertise. They do so on their own free will

(and of course now you will say something to counter this. The never ending online argument)

Sorry faith, I didn't read your complete comment either.
"For no other reason THAN because we spam more!"?
That is not a reason... oh god are you all kids?

You dont make friends with spam is the bottom line, you make friends or customers with advertising yes,
but there is a line between where advertising becomes anoying and thus backfires,
and there is also a line between advertising your product in a fair way,
or advertising it in such a way people with more iq then a peanut will see it as a bs story.

There is nothing wrong with advertising, but at some point, especially when the market already has well established companies offering the same service, it is best to not overdo it.
TL;DR If your product is so marvelous, let it speak for itself.

On top of that there is customer service and attracting new customers,
while you took your chance here to change this thread into a free advertisement thread,
you played it wrong and you come off as fairly arrogant at the least.
So potential new customers looking into the thread and reading it may be tempted to look elsewhere because of this.

SPAM - Means your anything but trustworthy.

Period.