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Can't log into Jita

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Col Arran
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-27 18:33:47 UTC
This is unacceptable, I am not able to log into the Jita system because it is unable to accept new connections. This is 100% unacceptable and is affecting my experience.

I wanted to log into Jita to get some trading done in these times of trouble but guess what? I can't. I expect a resolution immediately, CCP had more than enough time to sufficiently reinforce the Jita node and they did not. Also I do not care if it is merely a political statement, for the lulz or whatever.


6. CONDUCT

A. Specifically Restricted Conduct

Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game.

1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.


Stated here plain and clear if the system is unable to accept new connections then I would say that is an unreasonable or disproportionately large load.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
#2 - 2012-04-27 18:37:07 UTC
Col Arran wrote:
This is unacceptable, I am not able to log into the Jita system because it is unable to accept new connections. This is 100% unacceptable and is affecting my experience.

I wanted to log into Jita to get some trading done in these times of trouble but guess what? I can't. I expect a resolution immediately, CCP had more than enough time to sufficiently reinforce the Jita node and they did not. Also I do not care if it is merely a political statement, for the lulz or whatever.


6. CONDUCT

A. Specifically Restricted Conduct

Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game.

1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.


Stated here plain and clear if the system is unable to accept new connections then I would say that is an unreasonable or disproportionately large load.



so you want ccp to ban people or otherwise prevent them from playing in jita so you can?
you'd have to ban yourself too since you would then be contributing to the load
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#3 - 2012-04-27 18:39:35 UTC
Jita has a population cap in place to solve the very issue of server load. If you keep trying to log in you will eventually get there.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

Golar Crexis
Donald Trump Real Estate
#4 - 2012-04-27 18:40:42 UTC
Ohhh **** off.





If that comes accross as me not caring then fine.
You are experiencing the Lag that some of us have to put up with anytime we try and have large scale fleet battles. If this really bothers you then encourage ccp to continue the war on lag.
Pantheon Lea
Farmer Boyz
#5 - 2012-04-27 18:41:31 UTC
Just logged my trade alt on in Jita, no problems at all, you just have to be creative about what Try Again Later means...
adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#6 - 2012-04-27 18:41:33 UTC
But CCP sold us on one world with no instances...

You just made jita an instance... and a lower one than it was yesterday.


Sounds like we need less fail pointless expansions and more fixing of your fail ass code.
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#7 - 2012-04-27 18:44:59 UTC
And the point of the Goons attacking Jita is just this. Carry on raging Cybil

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

gfldex
#8 - 2012-04-27 18:45:04 UTC
My cat is sad too.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#9 - 2012-04-27 18:46:20 UTC
It's not the first time people haven't been able to log into Jita, it won't be the last. Just be grateful that the node it runs on is still up and working. There's 3 other major hubs, trade in them for a week until the load on Jita drops, the prices are generally better anyway.

@ the people who are in Jita, especially CFC+ friends and their opposition+ friends, keep it up folks, I'm making ISK hand over fist and you're doing a fine job of stress testing the hardware which I believe is some uber secret server tech from a major player in the server world.

Without people stressing the hardware CCP and the server makers would see no need to improve their product. Improved hardware is good for everybody, and it's especially good for the game in terms of future performance and the influx of new players/targets the media coverage will bring in.

Player run events like HulkaJitageddon are what makes Eve unique in the MMO world, nobody does it better because nobody else allows stuff like this.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Kriegman
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-04-27 18:47:17 UTC
Hey looksy here, market and spam bots are hurting now. JITA purge is in full swing, soon we will replace local population with goon and friends alts only.
Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-04-27 18:47:55 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Jita has a population cap in place to solve the very issue of server load. If you keep trying to log in you will eventually get there.

Does Jita still do loike in the old days and give me the option to be moved to another system? If not, why not?

Bokononist

 

Perramas
DreddNaut
#12 - 2012-04-27 18:52:56 UTC
I was smart and moved all my sell/buy orders from Jita earlier in the week to one of the other trade hubs. If you knew this was coming and did not make alternate plans you were flat out dumb or just looking for an excuse to cry like a little *****.

Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people- Eleanor Roosevelt

Jacob Stiller
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-04-27 18:54:56 UTC
I only look askance at this because it provides a loophole to get cargo out of Jita without actually risking an undock in Jita. Jump in your freighter, log out, log back in and accept relocation to a nearby system.

As for the OP, too bad you didn't train remote trading skills, sucker. P
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#14 - 2012-04-27 18:58:19 UTC
No one user is placing a disproportionately large load on the system. The system is experiencing a high volume of equally shared and fair load.

Try misinterpreting another section of the EULA for your next post. This is fun.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
#15 - 2012-04-27 19:01:13 UTC
What the heck did folks think would happen? Jita's always had a pop cap in place. Every once in a while on a weekend, the gates are shut.

Burn Jita is going to be renamed: "Wait in Sobeseki".
Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
#16 - 2012-04-27 19:01:18 UTC
Go to perimeter and trade there. You will still have access to the Jita market. Logistics might be difficult tho.

Also if you havent heard Jita is a sh*t show right now. and for RP purposes it would be entirely understandable that the police would shut down access to area.

Would you whine to the police in your town that you can't get to a certain block when there is a riot there and they closed it off?

Despite my posting prowess I really am terrible at this game

I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#17 - 2012-04-27 19:07:03 UTC
OP's first mistake was logging off in Jita to begin with...
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#18 - 2012-04-27 19:26:38 UTC
Col Arran wrote:
This is unacceptable, I am not able to log into the Jita system because it is unable to accept new connections. This is 100% unacceptable and is affecting my experience.
So? Go somewhere else and have your experience there. You accepted this situation when you agreed to the EULA.

adam smash wrote:
But CCP sold us on one world with no instances...
…and it doesn't have any. If it had instances, people would be able to go into Jita as much as they wanted. So the current situation proves beyond any doubt that the game isn't instanced.
Coldfire Trilogy
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-04-27 19:45:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Coldfire Trilogy
Tippia wrote:
Col Arran wrote:
This is unacceptable, I am not able to log into the Jita system because it is unable to accept new connections. This is 100% unacceptable and is affecting my experience.
So? Go somewhere else and have your experience there. You accepted this situation when you agreed to the EULA.

adam smash wrote:
But CCP sold us on one world with no instances...
…and it doesn't have any. If it had instances, people would be able to go into Jita as much as they wanted. So the current situation proves beyond any doubt that the game isn't instanced.


Actually, the fact that there's a limited number of people allowed while one system over the restriction ceases to exist means it IS instanced...but, there is only ONE instance OF Jita. Not sure how you get instanced = as many of the same as you want. Its separate, cordoned off, limited in player population. An uninstanced world would allow limitless people into that one area, due to there not being any restriction blocking or "instancing" the area off from others. It may be one world, but eve is separated into systems each one being a small separate instance, hence the reason why someone in in a system adjacent cant hypothetically use sublightspeed to fly from one area to the other, it requires a warp, and a loading screen ... to a new instance.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#20 - 2012-04-27 19:49:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Coldfire Trilogy wrote:
Actually, the fact that there's a limited number of people allowed while one system over the restriction ceases to exist means it IS instanced...but, there is only one instance OF Jita.
…which means it isn't instanced. Instancing happens when you duplicate a location to let more people be in it than the population cap (be it hardwired or dynamically load-balanced) would allow.

If only a single copy of a location exists, then it is not instanced. EVE does not support instancing — it doesn't exist in the code. There is only one of every system; one of every grid; one of every location, no matter what. The reason we have the current situation is because there is no instancing: no copies of Jita can be made to allow more people to be in that system.

The day they start duplicating systems and give us a drop-down to let us select which version of the system we want to be in we can start to talk about instances. Until then, the fact remains: instancing does not exist in EVE.
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