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What if it is the players who suck ?

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non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#101 - 2011-09-30 09:42:11 UTC
Jokerface666 wrote:

And eve is showing this pretty good, a sandbox, where we could've made "woodstock in space", but we didn't we kill, scam and cheat.
You may ask why, just because we can.

Most people don't scam or cheat.

The main thing to do in the game is kill. Of course people will do that. But the others aren't the norm.
mkint
#102 - 2011-09-30 09:42:58 UTC
I'm still waiting for this thread to stop sucking... "ooh, I smoked a bunch of pot in a 3rd world country, I'm now the world's leading authority on peace and prosperity" and "ooh, look at me, I'm a bastard because i can be." Seriously... tedious. Irrelevant.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Jokerface666
Intergalactic Expeditionary Corp
#103 - 2011-09-30 09:45:48 UTC
mkint wrote:
I'm still waiting for this thread to stop sucking... "ooh, I smoked a bunch of pot in a 3rd world country, I'm now the world's leading authority on peace and prosperity" and "ooh, look at me, I'm a bastard because i can be." Seriously... tedious. Irrelevant.

^ this :-D
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#104 - 2011-09-30 09:46:39 UTC  |  Edited by: non judgement
mkint wrote:
I'm still waiting for this thread to stop sucking... "ooh, I smoked a bunch of pot in a 3rd world country, I'm now the world's leading authority on peace and prosperity" and "ooh, look at me, I'm a bastard because i can be." Seriously... tedious. Irrelevant.

And isn't your addition to it, on a completely different level.
You're so better than the rest.
Cathy Drall
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#105 - 2011-09-30 09:59:47 UTC
Well what's a good game or developer and what do players have to do with it?!

- If CCP radically adjusted the game and it lost the old veteran players but got 1 million new subscribers, is it a better game?
- If a game is inherently good but no-one plays it, is it still a good game?

I think the " suck" thing has more to do with CCP not living up to expectations than something else.
They just don't have a very good PR department it seems.
Signal11th
#106 - 2011-09-30 10:03:03 UTC
mkint wrote:
I'm still waiting for this thread to stop sucking... "ooh, I smoked a bunch of pot in a 3rd world country, I'm now the world's leading authority on peace and prosperity" and "ooh, look at me, I'm a bastard because i can be." Seriously... tedious. Irrelevant.




+1 for proving the OP was right after all.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
The Old Chap
Doomheim
#107 - 2011-09-30 10:28:33 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Mendolus, that works for me.


I have seen the forums get worse and worse over the past few years. CCP's lack of enforcement of even the most basic listed rules is to blame. A normal person posts, gets flamed to hell and back and then does not come back... where as a troll turns it into his backyard playground, even after he stops logging into the game for any meaningful period of time.



And they wonder why the forums only represent a small portion of the playerbase...
I confess to be exploring other MMORPG's atm and I am ASTOUNDED by how moderated their forums are, and how as a result, courteous their communities are.


This forum community is literally a **** hole.


The problem is: where the forums led, the game itself is following. The playerbase demographics are slowly but surely following the same pattern.

Look into my eyes...   and tighten that sphincter, kid.
Deopheel Dalonne
Eridu Productions
#108 - 2011-09-30 13:07:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Deopheel Dalonne
Cathy Drall wrote:
Well what's a good game or developer and what do players have to do with it?!

- If CCP radically adjusted the game and it lost the old veteran players but got 1 million new subscribers, is it a better game?
- If a game is inherently good but no-one plays it, is it still a good game?

If veteran players had been better human beings, the two goals COULD have been met simulataneously. Veteran players could have helped attract 1 million new subscribers if they had been less preoccupied with their petty rivalries and vandettas. Again, does someone remember the Interstellar Starbase Syndicate ? Why weren't there more alliances like it ?

Sadly, most veteran players are like Jokerface or Mkint, narcissitic egomaniacss of one kind or another. There is little to expect from those.
Deopheel Dalonne
Eridu Productions
#109 - 2011-09-30 13:08:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Deopheel Dalonne
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