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Getting in and out of Jita today -- some simple questions
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Siigari Kitawa
New Eden Archery Club
#1 - 2012-04-27 15:28:49 UTC
Hey everyone. This is mostly a thread pointed at CCP, so while I appreciate speculation, lulz and jocular I really just want CCP's answers.

Okay so, first a few questions:

1) Logging in was one thing. I'm safe to log in from the character screen. But if I'm hung up on a gate that is obviously changing the game a bit. Why is Jita being throttled when there are only 1900 (totally typical Jita occupancy number) people in it?

2) If I leave Jita to go do stuff other than be bored in station all day what are my chances of getting back in if you constantly have the stargates to Jita closed?

3) Since this is revolving around a war and since Goons got quite a few people during low-occupancy numbers and while the server was not being throttled, who is to say any of the 10 groups that declared war on them are going to be able to even get INTO Jita to pew pew?

Thanks for the responses. The most important thing is that others and myself can play unaffected by this so it's like it wasn't there. I hope that CCP and the rest of the community can understand my reasons for this.

Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-04-27 15:32:24 UTC
Siigari Kitawa wrote:
Hey everyone. This is mostly a thread pointed at CCP, so while I appreciate speculation, lulz and jocular I really just want CCP's answers.

Okay so, first a few questions:

1) Logging in was one thing. I'm safe to log in from the character screen. But if I'm hung up on a gate that is obviously changing the game a bit. Why is Jita being throttled when there are only 1900 (totally typical Jita occupancy number) people in it?

2) If I leave Jita to go do stuff other than be bored in station all day what are my chances of getting back in if you constantly have the stargates to Jita closed?

3) Since this is revolving around a war and since Goons got quite a few people during low-occupancy numbers and while the server was not being throttled, who is to say any of the 10 groups that declared war on them are going to be able to even get INTO Jita to pew pew?

Thanks for the responses. The most important thing is that others and myself can play unaffected by this so it's like it wasn't there. I hope that CCP and the rest of the community can understand my reasons for this.


If you wanted answers from CCP, you should have petitioned. In before lock.

And no, you being able to play "unaffected by this so it's like it wasn't there" is the most asinine thing I've read in a while. This is a Massively Multiplayer Online Game. You're basically demanding the right to play EVE as a single player game, and that's never going to work.

And oh yeah, here's a fun thought for you while you're thinking about things:

If we get 2600 in Jita, the gates to Jita close. IF we get 2000 in the systems next door to Jita, gates to THOSE systems close. In other words, if we do this right, Nothing gets in NOR out of Jita.
Spy 21
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-04-27 15:34:29 UTC
Clone jump

Obfuscation for the WIN on page 3...
Siigari Kitawa
New Eden Archery Club
#4 - 2012-04-27 15:34:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Siigari Kitawa
edited out

Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#5 - 2012-04-27 15:35:29 UTC
Last night, I saw a high number of 2025 people in Local in Jita. I had zero issues undocking, leaving Jita, and returning to Jita - did it several times at the height of combat, shuttling lootz and getting better-suited ninja ships in place.

Biggest issue is when tidi got above 40% it became veeeerrry sloooow to do anything.

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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#6 - 2012-04-27 15:35:44 UTC
there's thousands of other systems you can go to
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-04-27 15:36:29 UTC
Siigari Kitawa wrote:
Xython wrote:
If we get 2600 in Jita, the gates to Jita close. IF we get 2000 in the systems next door to Jita, gates to THOSE systems close. In other words, if we do this right, Nothing gets in NOR out of Jita.

Dude the gates are locked right now and the player count in Jita is fluctuating +/- quite a bit. It just dropped 100 and the gates are still locked.

Also since I think we both know that CCP reads the forums and cares about their community, they will respond with answers that are both forward-facing and as fair as possible to all parties.


They did respond, actually:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-27-ccp-players-attempt-to-destroy-eve-online-economy-is-f-ing-brilliant

If it's too long to read, let me sum it up for you:

CCP approves of the Jita burning and thinks you should all harden the **** up.
Tyrion Struan
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-04-27 15:39:34 UTC
Siigari Kitawa wrote:


3) Since this is revolving around a war


Uhmm, no? There is no war this revolves around. We just wanted to come to highsec and meet other eve players. Indeed, we'd very much like for you to get into Jita. Saying hello to you in Jita is pretty much what thiis is all about.
Kriegman
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-04-27 15:40:10 UTC
Which part of JITA shutdown you don't get? We have stuffed the JITA local with goons and friends alts until none can log or jump in there. Then kill freighters or anything else on perimeter gates and elsewhere.
Phugoid
Absolute Order XL
Absolute Honor
#10 - 2012-04-27 15:40:39 UTC
Hey Siigari:

I assume u are based out of Jita? which is your first big mistake!

It's like complaining about all the shooting thats going on in your Stalingrad neighborhood during WW2.
Just take the weekend off and you'll be ok come Monday.

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Abraxas666
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-04-27 15:41:02 UTC
Xython wrote:
Siigari Kitawa wrote:
Hey everyone. This is mostly a thread pointed at CCP, so while I appreciate speculation, lulz and jocular I really just want CCP's answers.

Okay so, first a few questions:

1) Logging in was one thing. I'm safe to log in from the character screen. But if I'm hung up on a gate that is obviously changing the game a bit. Why is Jita being throttled when there are only 1900 (totally typical Jita occupancy number) people in it?

2) If I leave Jita to go do stuff other than be bored in station all day what are my chances of getting back in if you constantly have the stargates to Jita closed?

3) Since this is revolving around a war and since Goons got quite a few people during low-occupancy numbers and while the server was not being throttled, who is to say any of the 10 groups that declared war on them are going to be able to even get INTO Jita to pew pew?

Thanks for the responses. The most important thing is that others and myself can play unaffected by this so it's like it wasn't there. I hope that CCP and the rest of the community can understand my reasons for this.


If you wanted answers from CCP, you should have petitioned. In before lock.

And no, you being able to play "unaffected by this so it's like it wasn't there" is the most asinine thing I've read in a while. This is a Massively Multiplayer Online Game. You're basically demanding the right to play EVE as a single player game, and that's never going to work.

And oh yeah, here's a fun thought for you while you're thinking about things:

If we get 2600 in Jita, the gates to Jita close. IF we get 2000 in the systems next door to Jita, gates to THOSE systems close. In other words, if we do this right, Nothing gets in NOR out of Jita.



While EVE is a MMO and not a single player game it's very easy to remain "unaffected by this so it's like it wasn't there". It could possibly last what, a couple days? Granted Jita is by far the most used trading hub but it shouldn't be a stretch to stay away from the system for a few days. Try out Amarr? If you're stuck in Jita without a jump clone your best chance would be to shuttle out, if you die you'll only lose your implants.
Siigari Kitawa
New Eden Archery Club
#12 - 2012-04-27 15:41:25 UTC
Xython wrote:

CCP approves of the Jita burning and thinks you should all harden the **** up.

Don't misinterpret keeping systems running smoothly for advocating the actions of one alliance.

Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX
Kalpel
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-04-27 15:43:32 UTC
Xython wrote:
Siigari Kitawa wrote:
Xython wrote:
If we get 2600 in Jita, the gates to Jita close. IF we get 2000 in the systems next door to Jita, gates to THOSE systems close. In other words, if we do this right, Nothing gets in NOR out of Jita.

Dude the gates are locked right now and the player count in Jita is fluctuating +/- quite a bit. It just dropped 100 and the gates are still locked.

Also since I think we both know that CCP reads the forums and cares about their community, they will respond with answers that are both forward-facing and as fair as possible to all parties.


They did respond, actually:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-27-ccp-players-attempt-to-destroy-eve-online-economy-is-f-ing-brilliant

If it's too long to read, let me sum it up for you:

CCP approves of the Jita burning and thinks you should all harden the **** up.



We'll see how " Absolutely brilliant " Jon Lander thinks it is when people look to another MMO for fun, Muhahahaha

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2012-04-27 15:47:12 UTC
Kalpel wrote:
We'll see how " Absolutely brilliant " Jon Lander thinks it is when people look to another MMO for fun, Muhahahaha
Since, historically, it's exactly this kind of fun that has made people look at EVE, he'll probably continue to think it's absolutely brilliant.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#15 - 2012-04-27 15:47:22 UTC
Siigari Kitawa wrote:
Xython wrote:

CCP approves of the Jita burning and thinks you should all harden the **** up.

Don't misinterpret keeping systems running smoothly for advocating the actions of one alliance.


Well, flat out stating that what the Goons are doing is ******* brilliant pretty much does actually.

CCP likes it when you take advantage of the open ended nature of the game, especially when the gaming media expresses shock at what is going on.

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RaTTuS
BIG
#16 - 2012-04-27 15:49:15 UTC
1) jita alt logs in fine
2) spam seems to be up quite a bit
3) market is running
4) if your just wanting to play the market then three are ways of doing it without being in jita...
5) lets see what happens over the weekend.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#17 - 2012-04-27 15:52:03 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Kalpel wrote:
We'll see how " Absolutely brilliant " Jon Lander thinks it is when people look to another MMO for fun, Muhahahaha
Since, historically, it's exactly this kind of fun that has made people look at EVE, he'll probably continue to think it's absolutely brilliant.

I sense another spike in the number of subscriptions on it's way.

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Frio Rinah
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-04-27 15:53:01 UTC
Kalpel wrote:

We'll see how " Absolutely brilliant " Jon Lander thinks it is when people look to another MMO for fun, Muhahahaha

Anyone who quits over a single weekend event is someone that would not have stuck around for the next subscription bill anyway.

In reality, its no loss.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#19 - 2012-04-27 15:53:41 UTC
RaTTuS wrote:
1) jita alt logs in fine
2) spam seems to be up quite a bit
3) market is running
4) if your just wanting to play the market then three are ways of doing it without being in jita...
5) lets see what happens over the weekend.


I would also keep in mind that in the US right now it is around lunch time on a Friday.

Things should start heating up in about 5 or 6 hours.

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Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-04-27 16:01:10 UTC
Siigari Kitawa wrote:
Xython wrote:

CCP approves of the Jita burning and thinks you should all harden the **** up.

Don't misinterpret keeping systems running smoothly for advocating the actions of one alliance.


"Last night I got an email - Jita was at 2100. Time dilation kicked in at 15 per cent. And there were people just watching the sh*t that was going down. It was brilliant. It was absolutely great."

Lander added: "We want people to be able to do this. If Goonswarm want to do it, we want them to do it and we want them to have a great time doing it.

"The worst thing we could do is to stop it happening. It would be appalling for the game. It would be against everything we stand for."



What part of the above did you not understand, pubbie? CCP is on the side of the Sandbox.
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