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Hyper Inflation On Battleships ... ?????
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clixor
Celluloid Gurus
#41 - 2012-04-27 11:33:25 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
The money has always been there to manipulate the market like this, but getting all those involved sailing in the right direction has always been the tricky part.

The changes made and still to come by CCP just made it easier for the marketeers to pull in the same direction instead of against each other.


People are going to cash in at some point. And the ones that bought in last are likely also the ones with little liquid isk who'll panic when that time comes. So prices are going to fluctuate a lot, patience is a virtue in this case.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#42 - 2012-04-27 12:27:25 UTC
Tauranon wrote:

Shuttles capped tritanium at 2.4 until 2008. When I started, veld roids in highsec were not mined at all - and with the old roid art, they were so huge they visually merged together in giant veldblobs.


Yep, and the NPC-sold PA books capped Nocxium right around 535 ISK, which is why Nocxium could never go above that point.

(Not sure whether there are still any NPC-sold items which reprocess at competitive prices.)
GreenSeed
#43 - 2012-04-27 12:47:40 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
Tauranon wrote:

Shuttles capped tritanium at 2.4 until 2008. When I started, veld roids in highsec were not mined at all - and with the old roid art, they were so huge they visually merged together in giant veldblobs.


Yep, and the NPC-sold PA books capped Nocxium right around 535 ISK, which is why Nocxium could never go above that point.

(Not sure whether there are still any NPC-sold items which reprocess at competitive prices.)

well, that will depend on how much mineral prices go up, with lolgeddon in a few days minerals might go up high enough to make reprocessing even crap items well worth the inverstment.


the inverstment being, having them bought off at ridiculously low prices over the last 3 months.


*crosses fingers*

*hopes for the worst*

Straight
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-04-27 16:40:32 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Ah yes, the "artificial cap" of being able to play the game the way you want, that is killing drones for minerals. People should be FORCED to boringly mine. FORCED TO.

open PLEX for yourself. buy one from CCP -> get 500 mils ISK. Profit!

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#45 - 2012-04-27 16:52:23 UTC
sycore101 wrote:
Have i missed something here ???

About 3 or 4 weeks ago i was perhaps interested in buying another Battleship. I look today & whatthe hell .. over 200 mil for a Maelstrom, & even the others are rapidly rising in price.

What the hell is going on, i know there as to be some edit / (Nerf even) / on ore drops in the drone regions but to affect ships prices like this.

Who or what is playing with the prices, i know people like to have their laughs in this game but really extortionism.

What the hell happened People


Sorry bout that .. meant to say nerf not buff


You do know that ships are built from minerals right?

Minerals have doubled in price so ships will follow suit.

If you think it is bad now wait until HULKAGEDDON is in full swing as that traditionally causes a 40-60% temporary inflation.

Spend the 200 mil as in another month it will probably be over 300 mil.

There are several things driving mineral prices up right now. The drone POO nerf is a big one, combined with the massive BOT bannings,(many of the high sec minerals were supplied by bots, this supply has now dropped), And finally the coming of hulkageddon, it always drives prices up every year.

I expect it will take at least 6 months for prices to drop to a stable level. No idea what that level will be compared to what it was but I expect the average BS price to be 30-40% higher than it was a few months ago. It will most likely take another 6 months to get that low though.
supr3m3justic3
Perkone
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-04-28 00:09:36 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
sycore101 wrote:
Have i missed something here ???

About 3 or 4 weeks ago i was perhaps interested in buying another Battleship. I look today & whatthe hell .. over 200 mil for a Maelstrom, & even the others are rapidly rising in price.

What the hell is going on, i know there as to be some edit / (Nerf even) / on ore drops in the drone regions but to affect ships prices like this.

Who or what is playing with the prices, i know people like to have their laughs in this game but really extortionism.

What the hell happened People


Sorry bout that .. meant to say nerf not buff


You do know that ships are built from minerals right?

Minerals have doubled in price so ships will follow suit.

If you think it is bad now wait until HULKAGEDDON is in full swing as that traditionally causes a 40-60% temporary inflation.

Spend the 200 mil as in another month it will probably be over 300 mil.

There are several things driving mineral prices up right now. The drone POO nerf is a big one, combined with the massive BOT bannings,(many of the high sec minerals were supplied by bots, this supply has now dropped), And finally the coming of hulkageddon, it always drives prices up every year.

I expect it will take at least 6 months for prices to drop to a stable level. No idea what that level will be compared to what it was but I expect the average BS price to be 30-40% higher than it was a few months ago. It will most likely take another 6 months to get that low though.



They prob. wont drop back to what they were, unless CCP does something about, I can tell you right now whats going to happen. New players are going to quit before they get started, Old players are going to quit from being tired, and pvper's will stop losing/buying Mods/Ships, then indy guys will have no sells to go on. its not really that hard to predic't...like i said, unless CCP steps in....i head GW2 is supposed to be good :/
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#47 - 2012-04-28 07:42:23 UTC
supr3m3justic3 wrote:



They prob. wont drop back to what they were, unless CCP does something about, I can tell you right now whats going to happen. New players are going to quit before they get started, Old players are going to quit from being tired, and pvper's will stop losing/buying Mods/Ships, then indy guys will have no sells to go on. its not really that hard to predic't...like i said, unless CCP steps in....i head GW2 is supposed to be good :/


Battlecruisers (common pvp hulls) are showing almost entirely inelastic prices - even the margins have been preserved in manufacturing. ie current pricing is not changing player behavior in the short term.
Wingnuut
Sensible People
Sigma Grindset
#48 - 2012-04-28 17:33:03 UTC
Tamarana wrote:
The analysis about the reason of the spike in prices are mainly wrong. The main reason is Incursions Farming.
The ISKs from Incursions drip in the general EVE economy and force all prices up.
There is no real reduction of mineral production (just look at the chart of Jita).
If the reason would be less minerals, the prices of minerals would spike but the prices of other stuff, like pos modules, fuel, T2 and T3 ships, would stay still or fall. More ISK would go to buy minerals and less would go in buying moon materials, Sleeper stuff, fuel for POS, Planetari Industrial products.

They all are growing in the same similar way, so the reason could only be ingection of liquidity in the market.

Ben Bernanke is now controlling the EVE ISK faucets and is printing, printing.



T2 is changing because the tech market has a cartel atm, that raises the price of building t2 gear thats the cause of that spike.
qDoctor Strangelove
Doomheim
#49 - 2012-04-28 17:50:40 UTC  |  Edited by: qDoctor Strangelove
supr3m3justic3 wrote:
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
sycore101 wrote:
Have i missed something here ???

About 3 or 4 weeks ago i was perhaps interested in buying another Battleship. I look today & whatthe hell .. over 200 mil for a Maelstrom, & even the others are rapidly rising in price.

What the hell is going on, i know there as to be some edit / (Nerf even) / on ore drops in the drone regions but to affect ships prices like this.

Who or what is playing with the prices, i know people like to have their laughs in this game but really extortionism.

What the hell happened People


Sorry bout that .. meant to say nerf not buff


You do know that ships are built from minerals right?

Minerals have doubled in price so ships will follow suit.

If you think it is bad now wait until HULKAGEDDON is in full swing as that traditionally causes a 40-60% temporary inflation.

Spend the 200 mil as in another month it will probably be over 300 mil.

There are several things driving mineral prices up right now. The drone POO nerf is a big one, combined with the massive BOT bannings,(many of the high sec minerals were supplied by bots, this supply has now dropped), And finally the coming of hulkageddon, it always drives prices up every year.

I expect it will take at least 6 months for prices to drop to a stable level. No idea what that level will be compared to what it was but I expect the average BS price to be 30-40% higher than it was a few months ago. It will most likely take another 6 months to get that low though.



They prob. wont drop back to what they were, unless CCP does something about, I can tell you right now whats going to happen. New players are going to quit before they get started, Old players are going to quit from being tired, and pvper's will stop losing/buying Mods/Ships, then indy guys will have no sells to go on. its not really that hard to predic't...like i said, unless CCP steps in....i head GW2 is supposed to be good :/



supr3m3justic3 : WHY would this cause ANY problems for new players?
Now the new players have to mine 10 hours instead of 25 to buy a shiny T2 fitted T2 cruiser with all gadgets? Price for T1 BPO's are the same, price for skillbooks are the same, and the time to mine minerals for an Osprey or Scythe is the same.

You used to get 1 T2 fitted, unrigged Tempest for 1 PLEX. Today, even at inflated prices, you can get 3 T2 fitted rigged Tempests for 1 PLEX, so people plexing instead of Grinding won't be hurt either.

The ONLY people that are hurting over this are people with stuffed wallets that do not want to mine or produce any of the toys they use, because they are SPECIAL and should not have to labor...
Lee Anderson
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-04-29 05:36:54 UTC
Irisa Selenia wrote:
You can start enjoying your 400 million isk abaddons pretty soon.

Still cheap, but ok :)

Welcome to EVE were _fake _ISK and ships rule space! If you care about your "fake" killboard or ships, then please consult your doctor for medications.
Lee Anderson
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#51 - 2012-04-29 05:44:13 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:

Ah yes, the "artificial cap" of being able to play the game the way you want, that is killing drones for minerals. People should be FORCED to boringly mine. FORCED TO.



You are not forced to mine, or go to null sec. Many are making a lot of ISK on these changes and hardly ever undock. By brining mining and industry to parity with shooting rats, players are being given more options, not less.

Example of what you said "hardly undocking" i can do better and never undock :) +1

Welcome to EVE were _fake _ISK and ships rule space! If you care about your "fake" killboard or ships, then please consult your doctor for medications.
Twisted Girl
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-04-29 09:06:28 UTC
lol scrubs complaining about expensive t1 hulls.

I want a new titan in pink and revenant...running out of supercaphulls to buy. thanks ccp for tech.
Darth Snuggles
Doomheim
#53 - 2012-04-29 18:10:44 UTC
sycore101 wrote:
Have i missed something here ???

About 3 or 4 weeks ago i was perhaps interested in buying another Battleship. I look today & whatthe hell .. over 200 mil for a Maelstrom, & even the others are rapidly rising in price.

What the hell is going on, i knwo there as to be some edit / (Nerf even) / on ore drops in the drone regions but to affect ships prices like this.

Who or what is playing with the prices, i know people like to have their laughs in this game but really extortionism.

What the hell happend People


Sorry bout that .. meant to say nerf not buff


The Butthurt is strong in this one...
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#54 - 2012-04-29 19:16:27 UTC
Just wait till it all crashes? There is a lot happening right now that affects everything from the bottom line on up and is causing prices to rise drastically in all areas. Expect it to continue for awhile unabated then take a drastic downturn as things get back to normal.

tl;dr: buying ships is going to be perhaps a bit pricey for awhile. 
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