EVE General Discussion

Before i read all of this massive wall of words, i wish to know one thing:

I myself consider me being a (proud) carebear, because i avoid PvP and prefer PvE action in WH- and HighSec-space.
Nevertheless ... i'm pretty fine with the "there's no save place in EVE" and do NOT want it to be removed.
In fact i consider it as a challenge.

Therefore ... how is a carebear defined in EVE?

ur a damn fool

Let me tell what really happens shall i?

PvP pilots make null sec unsafe in any way. So miners who have NO INTEREST IN PVP AS IS THERE RIGHT AS A HUMAN BEING move to safer ground

Then u make grifer alts to get kills in empire

miners quit, prices rise and what do u do

blame the miners

PvP pilots are killing this game, not the miners

your all idiots

Posting to confirm it is an act against your human rights to prevent you care bearing it up wherever you wish.

Gtfo and go play a game more suitable, hello kitty online is excellent by the way.

I have to admit that I enjoy reading your so called manifestos, yet it almost seems as if you have to convince yourself that you're following a righteous cause.
I personally don't think you're right at all about miners/carebears, but to each his opinion I suppose. I must say that you have some talent though, you write well... =D

Care to elaborate?

Well the truth is Eve is pretty ******* dull now. There is a massive culture of entitlement, even though it has become easier and easier to avoid PvP. The conclusion is inevitable, nothing good is happening to PvP in Eve. Nothing good has happened to PvP in Eve in a long time.

If anything the OP is limited in his scope when he describes the issues player entitlement has put on the Eve "sandbox", it is hardly even fit to call a sand box anymore. We have reached the point where an intelligent player can make as much ISK as they want, and realistically never expect to lose a ship.

This is not the Eve online that a lot of us signed up for.

omg r i rly a dam fool?

I think the post the OP was trying to make was exactly what you pointed out: nobody in eve should have a right to avoid pvp.

What i said is: if we really want someone to have that right at least make them pay dearly for it.

As for those worried about prices: more people will mine in nullsec, problem solved and profit for all.

Reading is hard yo.

Don't worry, im sure he'll bring out an illustrated edition soon.

I agree that Eve has become a little dull lately, is this because of miners who are relatively safe? (Apparently not as the OP is ganking them, which takes effort... admittedly, but that's probably why he enjoys ganking them, it's rewarding if you will.)
I think not.

And miners don't really make all that much isk. The real isk is in C5/C6 escalations anyway, and the recently nerfed incursions. Is there any risk there? Sure... there should be. But how often do you get ganked in those huh? I dare to say that it's almost more dangerous to mine in high-sec atm than it is to run wormhole sites with a well established wormhole alliance.

I read almost all of it, and it was a good read, even if it's obvious that it is a Mittani alt and just focuses on miners while also mission runners deserve their share of punishment.

Vocal highsec carebears and mission runners will always try to destroy the balance of this game. I agree in making highsec even safer, but then highsec systems should be reduced, lvl4 missions must be taken to lowsec, and mineral compression must be nerfed so that there is need of miners in 0.0.

There are 2 major problems in EVE:
1. Everything, be it isk or minerals, is too abundant
2. The risk/reward ratio is complletely out of balance, taking risks looks very stupid for a solo player. The solo player that wants to take risks and go to lowsec or nullsec should be rewarded.