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War Decs: a Trillionaires Guide

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WisdomLikeSilence
BurgerkingTM
#1 - 2012-04-27 10:51:00 UTC
"Change the war dec cost formula so that the cost is no longer increased by the number of wars target corp is in. Instead, the cost is modified by the number of players in target corp"


Y'see thats good because as of Wednesday a Wardec on Goonfleet was 350 mill. Today its 500 mill. Expensive pastime, war is.


"But the formula is constantly being revised, so nothing is set in stone."

As it stands pretty soon only Goons will be able to afford to Wardec Goons, which I believe is not an entirely Good Thing. Lets hope the formula allows for agressors to target alliances and still pay for ammunition with which to blatt them, or we will all be reduced to standing in front of the Goon tank in Mittanigrad square.
Lt Angus
Goat Herders
#2 - 2012-04-27 10:54:38 UTC
or they could put it back to how it was when the game was more fun
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#3 - 2012-04-27 10:57:56 UTC
If you want to shoot goons, go shoot them.

Actually going through the wardec mechanic is so pointless its laughable. You can literally just fly into goon space if you want a fight.
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-04-27 10:58:18 UTC
It's a shame that the aggressors don't have the option to form larger entities in an effort to dec other large entities, while still keeping the cost/member very affordable.

Forever alone :´(
Elisha Starkiller
EU Industrials
#5 - 2012-04-27 10:58:27 UTC
Whats happening on Wednesday? new patch? or New Doom?
Hayaishi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-27 10:58:41 UTC
Why do you even need to wardec goons? I mean, honestly... Wardecs to stop logistics? Please, stop posting.
Elisha Starkiller
EU Industrials
#7 - 2012-04-27 10:59:35 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
It's a shame that the aggressors don't have the option to form larger entities in an effort to dec other large entities, while still keeping the cost/member very affordable.

Forever alone :´(


Anyone can form a large alliance.... just need a lot of friends or a lot of sheep either or :p
Snooood
#8 - 2012-04-27 11:10:29 UTC
They want to gank goon noobs as they undock from Jita with no risk to pad their killboards. That's the reason they're in high-sec to begin with. They're also apparently poor.

Too bad they got shat all over yesterday and will continue to be this weekend.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-04-27 11:11:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Benny Ohu
That's a shame, we were hoping to wardec the highsec mining alliance Goonswarm Federation

Anyway that change hasn't been implemented yet. The increased cost is due to the same old mechanics that I guess you're not familiar with?

EDIT: Unless I've misread your post.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#10 - 2012-04-27 11:12:29 UTC
Snooood wrote:
They want to gank goon noobs as they undock from Jita with no risk to pad their killboards. That's the reason they're in high-sec to begin with. They're also apparently poor.

Too bad they got shat all over yesterday and will continue to be this weekend.


Its funny, you'd expect people who spend their entire EVE careers taking part in asymmetrical combat to be good enough at it to successfully gank people when they actually have to hunt them down.

Roll
WisdomLikeSilence
BurgerkingTM
#11 - 2012-04-27 11:15:45 UTC
Hayaishi wrote:
Why do you even need to wardec goons? I mean, honestly... Wardecs to stop logistics? Please, stop posting.



That Whooshing sound is the point passing right over your head.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#12 - 2012-04-27 11:16:37 UTC
WisdomLikeSilence wrote:
Hayaishi wrote:
Why do you even need to wardec goons? I mean, honestly... Wardecs to stop logistics? Please, stop posting.



That Whooshing sound is the point passing right over your head.


I think you got it backwards.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-04-27 11:18:06 UTC
o/ I think it passed over my head as well actually. Are you saying you like or dislike the soon-to-be mechanics?
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#14 - 2012-04-27 11:24:21 UTC
CCP should divide the corporations in size-classes with 1000+ being the largest class. Each class with an incremental pricetag, and the cost of war is the sum of the pricetags of both the attacking and the defending corporation.

Less wardecs of large corporations on smaller ones, the size-classes make member-padding less effective and a hardcap to prevent 'too expensive to wardec'.

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WisdomLikeSilence
BurgerkingTM
#15 - 2012-04-27 11:31:10 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
o/ I think it passed over my head as well actually. Are you saying you like or dislike the soon-to-be mechanics?


Current mechanics are obviously broken - whereby a sample Alliance in this case Goons, have a wardec fee of half a billion isk, making war deccing them something only the very few and the very wealthy can do. As I said, I dont think this is very healthy.

The upcoming mechanic will be based on membership metrics, so that while the mechanic may change, it will still probably end up that large Alliances will be virtually immune from war decs except by other large alliances. If you think thats great, hey beer and skittles for you, they do mostly stick to 0.0... mostly.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-04-27 11:45:18 UTC
WisdomLikeSilence wrote:
Current mechanics are obviously broken - whereby a sample Alliance in this case Goons, have a wardec fee of half a billion isk, making war deccing them something only the very few and the very wealthy can do. As I said, I dont think this is very healthy.


Five hundred million is not a lot of money.

I think part of the purpose of the new system is to encourage fewer, larger alliances in highsec.
Mathias Hex
#17 - 2012-04-27 23:33:52 UTC
Wardecs should be very expensive. If CCP wants Alliance warfare to mean something, how better to do it than make the cost high. If you dont want to pay the price you must not want to be at war very badly.

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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#18 - 2012-04-27 23:37:18 UTC
Elisha Starkiller wrote:
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
It's a shame that the aggressors don't have the option to form larger entities in an effort to dec other large entities, while still keeping the cost/member very affordable.

Forever alone :´(


Anyone can form a large alliance.... just need a lot of friends or a lot of sheep either or :p


Anyone can form a large alliance.... just need a lot of friends if you are someone i like or a lot of sheep if you are someone I don't like. either or :p

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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#19 - 2012-04-27 23:39:54 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
It's a shame that the aggressors don't have the option to form larger entities in an effort to dec other large entities, while still keeping the cost/member very affordable.

Forever alone :´(


Not having any friends hurts, mang.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#20 - 2012-04-27 23:45:09 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
WisdomLikeSilence wrote:
Current mechanics are obviously broken - whereby a sample Alliance in this case Goons, have a wardec fee of half a billion isk, making war deccing them something only the very few and the very wealthy can do. As I said, I dont think this is very healthy.


Five hundred million is not a lot of money.

I think part of the purpose of the new system is to encourage fewer, larger alliances in highsec.

Seeing how that is like uh 10 drakes, I'd say yeah not that much, but uh.

The 0rphanage needs to camp Jita to stop the goon menace. So give them a break.

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