EVE General Discussion

Moar nerfs moarrrrrrrrrr

CCP probably believes this sorta crap. Well w/e looks like the once successul gouup PvE experiment got thrown under the bus because of CCP's listening to forum trolls.. looking like many are moving back to solo L4's because of the Incursion NERF & CCP incompetence. Maybe in 2-3 years it'll get revisited like faction warfare

Moons are finally changing how you get raw materials from (ring mining), to be implemented soon (?)

High sec Incursions and effort are 2 words not meant to work together. If you really want to know what it looks like "effort" for incursions go clean some in low/null sec, then come here post your comments.



An incompetent FC and incompetent pilots would OBVIOUSLY not target the falcon and get it down.




Just increase payouts and take all loot from wrecks, let them loot 0, nada, peanuts !!

Nuclear butthurt detected.

Yeah i certainly dont plan on using any more plex's to sub any of my accounts once they expire, like you said, summer is here, Aion is free to play, GW2 beta has been released far FAR FAAAAARRRRRRRRR better games out there this summer, and with the hole "CCP breaking internet spaceships since 2003" motto they seem to be adopting lately lost all repect and interest as well. Cherry on the cake was that joke of a GFX for PLEX sale they had!

Eve is real..... nope "eve is real......ly sh*t"

The complete opposite actually, if it is not worth it for a well build fleet doing twice the amounts of sites in the same time, it isn't worth it for the rest for sure. It even forces the the Assault and HQ FCs to be a lot more picky with her fleets to archive something worth doing, plus moving all the more serious VG people to Assault and HQ will even more push them out of the other sites. In the end the casual low budget guyes get screwed the most.

Btw nice straw man argument calling Incursion runners RMTers.

"Roime wrote:
So looks like the enjoyable group content is still the same, only thing that changed was the fact that their payout is no longer astronomically out of proportion in comparison to the rest of the game?

Who could have guessed, looks like the "elite" Incursion RMTers need to look for other ways to make isk to sell.

Hell, maybe this opens up room for the guys with only T1 battleships. Kinda like it was meant to be. "

Based on the red COnstellation control bars , It would appear few are enjoying the incursions . If they were they would be blue not red. I wonder if they will even kill the mom and complete the incursion. Nice work CCP!

I don't know that CCP could have Nerfed incursions harder. I went from making 100m an hour in a blinged out t3 (High risk high reward) to hardly breaking 30m while still being required to sit in a multi-billion isk Strategic cruiser. (High risk no reward.) Rescind the nerf and listen to hardcore incursion runners before trying to balance it. The reward system should be:
High reward-Lowsec > Nullsec > highsec - : Low reward.

I'll just add my 2 cents.

Before the patch, VGs gave too much money and blitzing was... pathetic. Both of those problems were addressed and quite well. Currently, it looks like VGs NCOs are going down in 6 minutes. Some might say it still need some refinement, but looks ok.

The problem I see is the volley damage.

Once the logis get to you, aka lock + have a cycle to spare, you're fine, but until that point, you're in trouble.

People ended up talking that from 4 they jumped to 8 logis in Assault sites to feel comfortable.

(if you're a TLDR guy, stop here)

I've watched several ships being blown up simply because logis couldn't lock + rep fast enough before the target was blown. Talking about 100k EHP battleship here in a ASSAULT site.

When people go to the point of turning off turrets to be able to fit 2 x 1600mm plus all the other tanking modules, to me is just wrong. Maybe shield fleet is not having those issues thanks to the amazing Invulnerability Field II module, but there is no such thing for armor and it is a huge pain.

Overall, still good money, tons of fun, excitement in the field, surprises with one or another wave still being discovered... but... I don't wanna blow up. I'm not flying a fancy 2bil ship, just a simple Abaddon the best I can fit it for it. Despite all the problems with capacitor that Lasers already have to deal with, not being able to SURVIVE is quite scary.

Incursions are great, best fun I had so far in the game, but right now, too risky.

Um, no. There has to be bigger rewards per person for bigger groups.