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maniac69uk
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-26 01:07:50 UTC
I would like there to be an option to spend your loyalty points to improve your ratial standings.
Much like in real life where corporations and people invest money to get a more favourable relationship with governments; so why in Eve can't a player go to (for example) an amarrian corporation and spend some LP's to get an increase to thier Amarr standings? Currently the only way to adjust ratial standings is to do missions to boost your status, but that in turn negatively affects another race. I would like to be able to bump my standings, or that of my corp without upsetting the relationship with other races since the LP store is so limited!
Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#2 - 2012-04-26 05:29:22 UTC
Yeah sure why not.

Also it would cut out the boring slog to grind up standings to get to the missions you want to run.

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-04-26 10:05:51 UTC
Run a couple of incursions, convert the LP, and instant access to every L4 agent, both mission and research of every faction?

Does that really sound like a good idea?
maniac69uk
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-04-26 16:25:07 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Run a couple of incursions, convert the LP, and instant access to every L4 agent, both mission and research of every faction?

Does that really sound like a good idea?


it would obviously be a sliding scale, similar to how you earn standings (more takes more), and I dont think faction standings has any effect on individual corps anyway....
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#5 - 2012-04-26 16:29:04 UTC
Can't support this lame excuse at an attempt for an "easy button." To tough to get standings? You're in the wrong MMO.

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Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-04-26 18:23:58 UTC
The only comment on this subject I could offer is that its not so dificult to get standings as per se.

It is however damn hard and stupid to RECOVER standings.


It's almost like a 1-5 ratio when it comes to dealing with positive to negative standings.

For each increase...you have to do 5 times the effort to get it back.

Or something to that affect.

Other than that...not sure about THIS proposal to be honest.What?

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maniac69uk
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-04-26 20:30:51 UTC
I'm not looking for an easy button, more a way to use lp to repair your standings.

The problem is everytime you repair one races standings another races standings gets damaged
Teshania
Silent Lazy Miners
#8 - 2012-04-27 12:25:40 UTC
I could see this as a viable option *IF* the loyalty increase would Only go towards a NPC corperation. Secondly it would have to be scaled in such a away that you would still have to do some grinding.

Example you Run 5 Level 4 missions, Turn in ALL the Loyalty points you made from those missions, and get the standing increase as though you just completed One lvl 3 mission. Its not a whole lot, but better then nothing.

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The problem is everytime you repair one races standings another races standings gets damaged


Google each mission before accepting it! There are lot of missions that don't effect your standings with other factions, its actually only like 1 out of every 4~5.

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Shandir
EVE University
Ivy League
#9 - 2012-04-27 13:23:31 UTC
Teshania wrote:
I could see this as a viable option *IF* the loyalty increase would Only go towards a NPC corperation. Secondly it would have to be scaled in such a away that you would still have to do some grinding.

Example you Run 5 Level 4 missions, Turn in ALL the Loyalty points you made from those missions, and get the standing increase as though you just completed One lvl 3 mission. Its not a whole lot, but better then nothing.

Quote:
The problem is everytime you repair one races standings another races standings gets damaged


Google each mission before accepting it! There are lot of missions that don't effect your standings with other factions, its actually only like 1 out of every 4~5.


No, he's right. Gaining standing with any one faction hurts your standing with opposing factions (if you have high Minmatar standing, you cannot have high, or even decent Amarr standing). However, the faction missions make it much worse, because you lose a lot standing with one faction with a much smaller gain to your preferred faction.

It would be nice if it were possible to have good standings with all factions. I'm not personally fond of the standings matrix.
Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-04-27 20:41:09 UTC
I was told that doing the pic arc missions gave some faction standing bost without the corresponding drop fromt he other factions, these can be run every 3 months,

is this true? and if so it is entirely possible to have good standings with all four factions. it jsut requires you to not take those storyline missions.

of and of course a lot of grinding. level 1 storylines give a +0.02 increase and a -0.01 or something like that to the opposing factions. its been a while though so i dont remember.

its possible though i believe.

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2012-04-27 20:49:21 UTC
Shandir wrote:
Teshania wrote:
I could see this as a viable option *IF* the loyalty increase would Only go towards a NPC corperation. Secondly it would have to be scaled in such a away that you would still have to do some grinding.

Example you Run 5 Level 4 missions, Turn in ALL the Loyalty points you made from those missions, and get the standing increase as though you just completed One lvl 3 mission. Its not a whole lot, but better then nothing.

Quote:
The problem is everytime you repair one races standings another races standings gets damaged


Google each mission before accepting it! There are lot of missions that don't effect your standings with other factions, its actually only like 1 out of every 4~5.


No, he's right. Gaining standing with any one faction hurts your standing with opposing factions (if you have high Minmatar standing, you cannot have high, or even decent Amarr standing). However, the faction missions make it much worse, because you lose a lot standing with one faction with a much smaller gain to your preferred faction.

It would be nice if it were possible to have good standings with all factions. I'm not personally fond of the standings matrix.


The minmatarr hate the amarr, the amarr hate the minmatar. If you're working for the guys they hate, why should the other faction like you?
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#12 - 2012-04-27 22:07:12 UTC
I support that there should be an easier way to raise faction standings.

But not like this, sorry.

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Corbin Blair
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-04-28 09:42:36 UTC
maniac69uk wrote:
I'm not looking for an easy button, more a way to use lp to repair your standings.

The problem is everytime you repair one races standings another races standings gets damaged

Did it ever occur to you that maybe you're not supposed to have high standings with every race? There are other trade hubs besides Jita you know.
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#14 - 2012-04-28 11:39:37 UTC
maniac69uk wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Run a couple of incursions, convert the LP, and instant access to every L4 agent, both mission and research of every faction?

Does that really sound like a good idea?


it would obviously be a sliding scale, similar to how you earn standings (more takes more), and I dont think faction standings has any effect on individual corps anyway....


Yes it does, if you have standings with a faction at 5+ you have access to all the level 4 agents for that faction without needing the individual corp or agent standing.

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