EVE General Discussion

Before this gets trolled to high heaven, I believe I have a valid point when I say why is it that when CCP know full well they have made a huge error of judgement they become quiet about it on the forums and don't respond to topics made about said problem.

I used to love incursions, I was by no means one of these guys that farm them on a daily basis from morning until night. I will however stand up for the incursion community and say that what has happened is stupid and believe CCP to have made a monumental error of judgement with the changes that took place.

Its as if CCP made these changes without first testing them themselves, to check for balance.

You seem to have achieved with incursions what you have done with PI. It used to a viable source of income but now the bat has been swung so hard that Incursions if left as is, will be another wasted feature. I was personally making billions of isk per week making robotics but with the changes thats no longer possible and not worth the extra time and effort.

CCP waved goodbye to 2 paid accounts because of the most dumbass changes ever in PI.

Why do you not respond CCP to this and to the petition made and signed by many. You know you have done wrong and you know you have got to re balance this properly as well as speak about this in the open as promised months ago.

CCP please respond.

Additional : This is a serious topic but I knoe alot of you are going to make immature stupid comments like a child would. So feel free and be that child.

/me stamps his feet and picks his nose.

Could you at least try to be a bit more specific about what is the actual issue here? How much has the Incursion income decreased since the patch?

You certainly appear a bit greedy to me, if 8bil ISK per month is the minimum sum that encourages to do PI.

Did you know that you can make tax-free PI by setting up your own customs offices?

And what do you do with all the ISK?

Perhaps if you provided an actual argument instead of "this is wrong because I'm not making fist-fulls of money". Maybe then we could have an actual conversation.

The reason behind this post is that CCP said that assault sites pay would increase, but instead the spawns in the assault have considerably increased. It takes longer to do them by quite a long way.

Vangaurds have gone from 3-4 minute sites up to about 13 minutes with a pay decrease and LP decrease which I guess is fair enough in honesty but the assaults change is what most of the guys on this forum are biting hard about. Time required to complete these sites I feel is more the reason for this forum rage and actually not the ISK change.

It was not what CCP promised at all. Quite the opposite in fact.

About myself personally, I am not greedy at all it's just great that at the time I was making robotics I was a care bear so the sudden flood of income compared to lvl4s was greatly received. However that path has ended and I no longer reside in empire and its been great ever since.

It is not greedy to "want" billions of isk I know people with personal liquid ISK into the hundreds of millions with the same in personal assets.

I am a long way of being classed as "game rich" I am in fact quite poor in comparison.

But what's the problem in that? I though incursion runners enjoyed the community feeling, and flying in fleets, the whole idea of group content.



I am a long way of being classed as "game rich" I am in fact quite poor in comparison. [/quote]

So is envy for Imaginary Space Kredits the reason you moan that a PVE site takes 13 minutes?

idk, some sites I've ran have taken me hours to do, and often they drop nothing more than OPE.

And you still didn't answer what you need all that ISK for? Is your goal in EVE to have a fat wallet? Do you RMT?

What do you expect, a walk in the park?

You can still make billions with making robotics. In lowsec and 0.0, where _you_ wont go.

I wonder why that is? There are a lot of reasons - but one might be that Incursion runners can afford to pay absurd prices for ships. Fortunately, with less ISK floating around, eventually things should become affordable again, and not just by Incursion runners.


Yes. Supers tend to be operated by large alliances and not easy to afford by individual players in hi-sec. You say that like it's a bad thing.

People still make 100+ M isk per hour with current build.

Yeah its a lot lower than 200 M isk per hour before the patch, but its still a high and consistent source of income in high sec.