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Corp Hopping Abuse in High Sec Wars must Die

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Parsee789
Immaterial and Missing Power
#1 - 2012-04-26 04:07:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Parsee789
I find it rather frustrating that when my corpmates and I camp one of the aggressors. They dock up and hop out of their corp and join another one of their war dec corps. They undock and we are simply unable to do anything about it.

When they find a target to gank they quickly join back into the corp, attempt a gank, and then leave the corp afterwards to avoid retaliation.

Hiring mercs are useless as the aggressors will just simply corp hop to a different corp.

Highsec wars are a complete joke because of this.

Since they started the war, they should be obligated to fight and not simply jump out of corp so quickly and easily when things aren't in their favor.

1. Either CCP allow War Targets to be kicked out of station so my friends and I can beat them to a pulp.

2. Or fix the Corp Hopping scheme going on.

They should not be able to join or leave a war dec corp instantly. They should have to wait perhaps 24 hours before they can leave or join a wardecced corp.

That way they should commit more to the fight and not simply be able to gank and escape.
Kobal81
Domheimed
#2 - 2012-04-26 04:13:18 UTC
HTFU Big smile

"Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit"
Parsee789
Immaterial and Missing Power
#3 - 2012-04-26 04:13:56 UTC
Kobal81 wrote:
HTFU Big smile


I say CCP should make it so that you can Force War Targets out of stations. Force them to commit to a fight.
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#4 - 2012-04-26 04:20:37 UTC
How exactly do you intend to do that? Have them forced to sit at their computers and play?

What you're asking for isn't realistic. Yes, if you get dec'd the aggressor should be made to fight, but the way in which you want it done is not possible.

If they are changing corps that frequently, then petition CCP about it as they already have existing rules about joining wardec corps while in space, and it is possible that they would look sympathetically upon you in a situation where the corp change mechanic is being abused to such an extent.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#5 - 2012-04-26 04:22:55 UTC
Parsee789 wrote:
Kobal81 wrote:
HTFU Big smile


I say CCP should make it so that you can Force War Targets out of stations. Force them to commit to a fight.


Yeah! Its just so hard to get those 2 man industrial corps to come out of station in their haulers. Need CCP to poke them with a pointed stick for your fair fight.
Knot'Kul Sun
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-26 04:42:12 UTC
locked in corp if corp is at war

in the event someones locked into a corp intentionally and being killed by corp members repeatedly, stay docked and petition for removal
Kestrix
The Whispering
#7 - 2012-04-26 04:47:12 UTC
I've said it before, war decs target corps and thats exactly what you get! Corps can be empty one moment and full the next.

I've suggested that the war dec should target the players within the corp from the moment the war declaration is made. Thus each and every player has a 24 hour notice period + 7 day war aggression timer. This timer stays with them if they leave the corp. After the first week and if the war is renewed, the corperation again defines the group of players e.g. it's members that recive a further 7 days aggression timers.
Lola Humpsalot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-04-26 04:49:32 UTC
Parsee789 wrote:
Either CCP allow War Targets to be kicked out of station so my friends and I can beat them to a pulp.




+1 for adding "Teargas Grenade II" and "Teargas Launcher II" to the sandbox.
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#9 - 2012-04-26 04:52:28 UTC
Lola Humpsalot wrote:
Parsee789 wrote:
Either CCP allow War Targets to be kicked out of station so my friends and I can beat them to a pulp.




+1 for adding "Teargas Grenade II" and "Teargas Launcher II" to the sandbox.


Requires Station Eviction V

Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to troll everyone you meet - KuroVolt
Marcus Ichiro
IchiCorp
#10 - 2012-04-26 04:59:50 UTC
Easiest solution:

Actually look for decent fights instead of picking on carebears and being surprised when they balk at the prospect of losing their stuff.
Kestrix
The Whispering
#11 - 2012-04-26 05:03:00 UTC
Kestrix wrote:
I've said it before, war decs target corps and thats exactly what you get! Corps can be empty one moment and full the next.

I've suggested that the war dec should target the players within the corp from the moment the war declaration is made. Thus each and every player has a 24 hour notice period + 7 day war aggression timer. This timer stays with them if they leave the corp. After the first week and if the war is renewed, the corperation again defines the group of players e.g. it's members that recive a further 7 days aggression timers.


Another option would to be to change how corps assign roles to thier members. ATM a CEO can opt to give no roles to thier members allowing them to leave at a moments notice. If when a player joined a corp they automatically recived a basic member role, which granted them no rights or privileges (these would still have to be assiend by the CEO) but would mean they would require a 24 hour period of notice prier to leaving.
D Program
#12 - 2012-04-26 05:06:35 UTC
Havent you guys read any of the Inferno features?

With the new wardec system, all members who leave a corp in a war, will take that war with them, they still will be at war until the war ends. Same with corps leaving alliances.

What is this sorcery?

http://www.eve-cost.eu
Kestrix
The Whispering
#13 - 2012-04-26 05:09:23 UTC
D Program wrote:
Havent you guys read any of the Inferno features?

With the new wardec system, all members who leave a corp in a war, will take that war with them, they still will be at war until the war ends. Same with corps leaving alliances.


Forgot about that :P
Parsee789
Immaterial and Missing Power
#14 - 2012-04-26 05:22:06 UTC
Marcus Ichiro wrote:
Easiest solution:

Actually look for decent fights instead of picking on carebears and being surprised when they balk at the prospect of losing their stuff.


Did you even read my post? I got wardecced, but the aggressors refuse to fight us face to face. Instead they just want easy kills and they simply jump corps so we can't shoot at them without getting concorded.
Vyl Vit
#15 - 2012-04-26 13:43:30 UTC
There's a strongly-worded memo in the works.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-04-26 13:53:06 UTC
GTFO of highsec.

Problem solved.

Want to wage a war; that you the aggressor belive you have the advantage, then you should in fact have to deal with every asshat move the other guy can pull.

Or...GTFO where wardecs are not needed and stop beliving you need to be BATMAN! while shouting "For...I am the lawls!" because you belive highsec is to safe and need some wierd justification to make it more risky while reducing the risk to yourself because in fact highsec is totally riskless when no one but the other guy you dec fights back (no, the other guy can't really hire mercs since mercs being human = error as human's are just un-trustworthy enough as it is already in EVE)
CCP Paradox
#17 - 2012-04-26 13:56:06 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Paradox
You probably wouldn't be making this thread if you had read the dev blogs and Fanfest presentations from Super Friends. Just sayin'

CCP Paradox | EVE QA | Team Phenomenon

Space Magician
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#18 - 2012-04-26 14:49:18 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
You probably wouldn't be making this thread if you had read the dev blogs and Fanfest presentations from Super Friends. Just sayin'

He probably wouldn't - but at least link the blogs Ugh
Shukuzen Kiraa
F4G Wild Weasel
#19 - 2012-04-26 14:54:51 UTC
Parsee789 wrote:
Kobal81 wrote:
HTFU Big smile


I say CCP should make it so that you can Force War Targets out of stations. Force them to commit to a fight.


Yeah...griefers wont exploit that at all Roll
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-04-26 15:01:52 UTC
Griefers or totally legit, non-griefer, wardec dudes.

Belligerent Undesirables Selling Griefer Immunity
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