EVE General Discussion

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yes but you forget something the disappointments can be improved upon to become worthwhile: PI for one could become a strong minigame in itself and not a half-assed attempt that many people here seem to agree it is. other things ive noticed from reading the forums is the mechanics behind the bounty system and FW can all be improved to make them viable avenues for players as a long term path of development within the game. however as they are its questionable. there's no point in offering options if half of those options take you no where and you end up taking the options you really didn't want simply cause the options you did didn't get the needed development time (or post-release support)...

new content is only really needed when everything else is somewhat polished. they dont have to be perfect but they could feel more like they're 70-80% fully implemented and done (leaving the rest for updates)...im not saying abandon new content...otherwise these expansions become nothing more than endless patches. but at least what is put into those expansions should be 70-80% well designed, well implemented and near completion (or complete itself)...

everyone wants the WiS patch but now imagine all you can do is walk around in a room - people would hate that and think it was the most useless thing to ever grace upon a game update. now put in a bar, seats, a television that randomly shows youtube videos or something that everyone can communally watch, throw in Second Life type interactions and responses for your characters and throw in a little option like assassinations via FPS or TPS mechanic for low sec opening up possibilities of shoot outs with Concord/Station security guards.....and now that will be a patch worth waiting for...

Um... what you appear to be missing is that what the CSM wants is to turn all those old disappointments less disappointing, starting with the first of the post-WH expansions... Dominion. Fixing dominion IS adding new content (since it really had no *good* content to begin with.) Fixing Tyrranis would need the webdevs(lol) to retract the spacebook being mandatory bullshit, and it would require PI to have enough depth to be an engaging mechanic that isn't something a 12 year old could do in Flash in half an hour (i.e. new content). Fixing Incursions would need to include adding more site types (again new content) as well as fixing broken progress bars, balancing income, and hopefully do something like making single-player incursion-type missions to replace traditional missions. Incarna's laundry list of needed fixes and new content is probably a decade worth of work, and not vital to the rest of the game.

Even T3 needs some fixes... a glut of garbage subsystems with no economic pressure valves to allow the market to adjust properly, as well as the bottleneck in production that ensures 2 of the T3 mats will have value and the rest inevitably becoming literally worthless. And adding the promised missing subsystem would also be adding new content. There have been old suggestions about adjust parts of w-space to be more suited for long-term habitation and others for a more nomadic lifestyle (destructible stargates being one of the most compelling proposed additions to w-space.) Not to mention the unrevealed story stuff.

The point is that CCP has kept adding new content that has nothing to do with the rest of EVE. It feels like they've been building the framework for a game without actually working on the game itself in a long time with a variety excuses. Well, it's time to fill in the framework and take EVE out of beta, one abandoned feature at a time. But the big reason players have been bleeding away is because the ONLY long term goal still available is to buy a supercarrier, join a blob, then quit EVE... that is what's broken with EVE, and you don't fix that by adding new *framework*.

This is why they invented Prozac

I agree with mkint's posted reply. CCP needs to fix things before adding more stuff to the game.

Now whenever an expansion with 'shiny' new content is introduced, it not only breaks existing stuff that's already working but it also creates even more bugs. Then there's a 'Fix it' patch every couple of days for the next 2 weeks (usually doesn't do what it's supposed to do) which continues until the problem or bug is 'workable' and not really 'Fixed'..

This is why you should have to be licensed to post here. Goons can be in charge of licensing because we are posting experts.

I think the OP doesn't understand that iterating old content might bring new content, specially when the old content is incomplete, like pretty much nearly everything in EVE.

the next 2 expansions. maybe 3 or even 4. should be imo mostly made up of mostly old content that has been iterated apon, with maybe 1-2 new totaly finished features per expansion. they ahve to be totaly finished not that half baked garbage like pi and cq. actually finished and tested on sis for 2-3 montsh and changed and made to work on sisi then released on tq. im sick of bug testing this game and would like a finished and polished product for once.

so the expansions shoudl lien up as

dec 2011 eveonline - polished
summer 2012 eveonline fw and 0.0 fixes/changes 1 new shiney
dec 2012 eveonline 2 sexy new shineys, massive buffs(no ******* nerfs) to industry and fis ui's
summer 2013 sexy shiney stuffs now everything has polished finishes

tbh atm ill just be happey if they fix scaps and deliver on there promises

I want WiS and FiS and DUST and WoD and Atmospheric Flight and Ponies .... all by tomorrow.

CCP should fix existing content. Like these forums. I spent the time to make a nice post but then the forums ate it. Seems to happen whenever I take more than 5-10 minutes to write something up. Sigh.