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Set up for a Blackbird?
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Torigoma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-04-21 17:41:17 UTC
Whats a good, cheap setup for a Blackbird if I'm gonna run lvl2-3 missions? I've got 3 Ion blasters I on it right now, but their range is pretty low.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#2 - 2012-04-21 18:01:20 UTC
The Blackbird is not a good mission-running ship. Its role is providing ECM support, not being a main combat ship, and it sort of sucks at everything except ECM (which it is great at).

Try a Moa or a Caracal. Both of those are actual combat cruisers.

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Torigoma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-04-21 18:44:13 UTC
Ah, got ya, I got bad info then. In that Case, what would you recommend as a good fit for the either of those?
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#4 - 2012-04-21 19:03:38 UTC
The Caracal is somewhat better for missions, as it can keep range better and apply damage regardless of range(up to its max range) because it uses missiles . Try something like this:

Quote:

[Caracal, L2/3 T1 Missoner]

Experimental SV-2000 Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Scourge Light Missile
Experimental SV-2000 Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Scourge Light Missile
Experimental SV-2000 Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Scourge Light Missile
Experimental SV-2000 Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Scourge Light Missile
Experimental SV-2000 Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Scourge Light Missile

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I

Muon Coil Bolt Array I
Muon Coil Bolt Array I

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator I
Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
[Empty Rig slot]


Warrior II x2


The Moa can be decent, too:
Quote:
[Moa, L2/3 T1 Missoner]

200mm Compressed Coil Gun I, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Compressed Coil Gun I, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Compressed Coil Gun I, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Compressed Coil Gun I, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Compressed Coil Gun I, Antimatter Charge M
[Empty High slot]

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I

Damage Control I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Tracking Enhancer I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Warrior II x3

Better damage and tank, but shorter range and slower.

These ships will do just fine in L2 missions. In L3s though, you might get overwhelmed and might have to go for a Ferox or a Drake. I don't know very well, since I have never missioned much

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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#5 - 2012-04-21 20:02:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Liang Nuren
Heh, I haven't thought about it in ages, but I did L2s in a Blackbird for a while. Good memories - thanks. :)

-Liang

Ed: I ended up switching out for a smartbombing 3 light drone Moa for "ripping those missions up". Lol

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Torigoma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-04-25 17:53:05 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
The Caracal is somewhat better for missions, as it can keep range better and apply damage regardless of range(up to its max range) because it uses missiles . Try something like this:
The Moa can be decent, too:
Quote:
[Moa, L2/3 T1 Missoner]

200mm Compressed Coil Gun I, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Compressed Coil Gun I, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Compressed Coil Gun I, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Compressed Coil Gun I, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Compressed Coil Gun I, Antimatter Charge M
[Empty High slot]

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I

Damage Control I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Tracking Enhancer I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Warrior II x3

Better damage and tank, but shorter range and slower.

These ships will do just fine in L2 missions. In L3s though, you might get overwhelmed and might have to go for a Ferox or a Drake. I don't know very well, since I have never missioned much


I like this Moa, but a Moa can not support 5 (200mm Compressed Coil Gun I) AND a (Experimental 10MN Afterburner I). Any suggestions?
Demieta
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-25 18:28:21 UTC
Torigoma wrote:

I like this Moa, but a Moa can not support 5 (200mm Compressed Coil Gun I) AND a (Experimental 10MN Afterburner I). Any suggestions?


I haven't run it through a fit tool or anything but replace one of the lows (either the DC or a mag stab) with a Type-D Power Core Modification or a Local Power Plant Manager (the meta 1/2 Power Diagnostic Systems). The PDS will give you 5% more grid which might fix your fitting problems. I think that the extra shield HP you get from the PDS will make up for the tank you lose from the loss of the DC, so that would be what I would try.
Quirinias
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-04-25 19:39:47 UTC
push this skill to level 5
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Engineering
and this skill to level 4
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Advanced_Weapon_Upgrades
to make fitting ships much easier. Also, download EveHQ
http://www.evehq.net/
to see what fittings will work without having to waste any isk.
Demieta
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-04-25 20:51:01 UTC
I played around with it a little in EFT - the PDU for DC swap will allow this to fit with Engineering V and Advanced Weapon Upgrades 3.