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Will YOU let the GSF Silence YOU ??

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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#261 - 2012-04-25 19:25:45 UTC
Radelix Cisko wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Radelix Cisko wrote:


previous post


12 pages, going on 13. Also, it isn't up to the players to stop anyone, it's up to CCP to change the rules to allow the victims to win.


How are the victims not capable of winning? The victims can choose to run, fight, or not play till the heat is off them. Making yourself hard to kill is a good way of doing this. Play in groups, have situational awareness, move around every day. The tools exist in game to defend yourself.

This is a game of risks. Anytime you undock your clone and ship are at risk. Also you **** off people willing to pay to have you violenced then that is your fault. I love tears as much as the next person but I also make sure that I don't give other parties the chance to harvest mine. My KB is terrible btw. I don't talk sh*t in local, whine about unfair fights, or pay ransoms.

Harassment in the game is a questionable mechanic, fighting is not. Someone bumps your freighter repeatedly to prevent it from warping, come back in a tornado and pop him then accept that concord is going to pop you. You might get screwed with less if you actually take action to stop them. Better yet don't play the goons game, stop using items that use technetium. Its the wallet that hurts the most.


Don't buy Tech2 anything. I'm sure that will work.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#262 - 2012-04-25 19:25:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Constantine
Lapine Davion wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
yet human garbage lіke Jade Constantine and Issler Dainze reside securely, squatting in their empire shitholes, squawking about Goonswarm with no risk. No more.



Lols, Something tells me that boy is skipping his medication.

Are you positive that you're not?


Is that supposed to be a come back ?

have some :pity:


Hey Jade, can you refute the claims in your original quote with some facts?


I've been winding up you fruits for the last five years straight and while I've lost about 100b isk worth of ships to random pilots in the rest of eve I've never yet lost anything to goonswarm. That suggests that rather than hiding in safe space as suggested by your grand teapot its more a case of goons simply not bothering to do anything beyond trolling their enemies on the forums.

If this new initative now means the goons will "start bothering" (and start playing the game in space rather than via forum alts) then I consider it a progressive development and I'll await your agents with amusement in Minmatar and Amarrian lowsec.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#263 - 2012-04-25 19:26:12 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Can I purchase my spot on the Goon list of bad people?

I will even mail you my where abouts so you don't need to use locator agents.

We don't have one. Even if we did, you're already on it. It's a simple test.

1) Are you a member of the CFC or currently have blue status with the coalition?

If the answer is yes, then you're okay. Assume otherwise if you're not.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#264 - 2012-04-25 19:27:32 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Can I purchase my spot on the Goon list of bad people?

I will even mail you my where abouts so you don't need to use locator agents.


Luckily getting a spot on the list is free!

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#265 - 2012-04-25 19:30:04 UTC
I do have a question though, will the "hit list" be publicly posted somewhere?

If so, can the user base put "likes" beside the various names to signify our support? Smile

You know, I can't help but wonder if I'm on the list somewhere. It would certainly make life interesting for awhile. This would be a way to find out and still have fun with it. Smile

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Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#266 - 2012-04-25 19:31:09 UTC
Karadion Kohlar wrote:

We don't have one. Even if we did, you're already on it. It's a simple test.

1) Are you a member of the CFC or currently have blue status with the coalition?

If the answer is yes, then you're okay. Assume otherwise if you're not.



Can't I get red instead of neutral? Being neutral to GSF isn't quit what I am after.
I feel special when I get red status. That is what I was asking to puchase.

But ah well, I will have to take other measures then to get the eternal red.

I wonder if Jade has room for me in due time.

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#267 - 2012-04-25 19:32:33 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:


I've been winding up you fruits for the last five years straight and while I've lost about 100b isk worth of ships to random pilots in the rest of eve I've never yet lost anything to goonswarm. That suggests that rather than hiding in safe space as suggested by your grand teapot its more a case of goons simply not bothering to do anything beyond trolling their enemies on the forums.

If this new initative now means the goons will "start bothering" than I consider it a progressive development and I'll await your agents with amusement in Minmatar and Amarrian lowsec.



I had to ask several people to even find out that your alliance is involved in FW. Why would we even bother going after you before? Nobody knows who your people are.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
#268 - 2012-04-25 19:33:10 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Radelix Cisko wrote:
[quote=Lapine Davion][quote=Radelix Cisko]

previous posts


Don't buy Tech2 anything. I'm sure that will work.


Since you won't address the other points in the post what do you propose that CCP do to protect the "victims"?

Despite my posting prowess I really am terrible at this game

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#269 - 2012-04-25 19:35:16 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Can I purchase my spot on the Goon list of bad people?

I will even mail you my where abouts so you don't need to use locator agents.

sure, send 500m isk to weaselior and i'll get you on it

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#270 - 2012-04-25 19:38:10 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
It comes off a bit disingenuous to single out 2 people when every non-goon stated the same thing after the fanfest panel. There were others that were calling for permanent bans. He claims this is because they made it political, but the response seems more political than their statements were.
As for the Death Squad, I think using neutral alts as part of the group is pretty ball-less. You want to put fear into people with a squad, but then you're going to hide behind neutral alts like you claim others do? The message seems to be that you're no better than any other high sec griefer wardec corp.
I'm sure this doesn't help my survivability, but this is a game. If something someone says either way on a forum gets your panties so twisted that you have to write a manifesto, I think 30 days away was probably not long enough.


Exactly 100% true. Looks like more severe penalties are in order, hopefully resulting in the eventual genocide of this virus that's been infecting our beloved game.

Also should point out the statements saying that everyone on this so called hit list will be constantly griefed until they submit or quit this game sounds a lot like harassment. However, knowing CCP's track record pertaining to harassment, it's more than likely they will be able to get away with it in game.

This is just going to enrage the community even more and make The Mittani an even bigger target, both in and out of game. I hope he's smart enough to never show his face in public again.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#271 - 2012-04-25 19:39:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
As much as I like Babylon 5, I can turn that around and make us the good guys :)
…and funnily enough, that's exactly what they Shadows thought as well. Blink

Lapine Davion wrote:
Don't buy Tech2 anything. I'm sure that will work.
The mainstay equipment that goes into punishing an entity such as the Goons isn't T2, you know… It may occasionally qualify as advanced, but it isn't T2. So yes, it would work.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#272 - 2012-04-25 19:43:49 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
It comes off a bit disingenuous to single out 2 people when every non-goon stated the same thing after the fanfest panel. There were others that were calling for permanent bans. He claims this is because they made it political, but the response seems more political than their statements were.
As for the Death Squad, I think using neutral alts as part of the group is pretty ball-less. You want to put fear into people with a squad, but then you're going to hide behind neutral alts like you claim others do? The message seems to be that you're no better than any other high sec griefer wardec corp.
I'm sure this doesn't help my survivability, but this is a game. If something someone says either way on a forum gets your panties so twisted that you have to write a manifesto, I think 30 days away was probably not long enough.


Exactly 100% true.

Looks like more severe penalties are in order resulting in the eventual genocide of this virus that's been infecting our beloved game.



Agreed. Burning out the cancer that's been hiding behind CONCORD all these years is long overdue and should be far more than just a weekend event.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#273 - 2012-04-25 19:50:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Lapine Davion
Radelix Cisko wrote:


previous posts


Don't buy Tech2 anything. I'm sure that will work.[/quote]

Since you won't address the other points in the post what do you propose that CCP do to protect the "victims"?
[/quote]

A magical thing called "nothing".

Edit: Also this post

Quote:
12 pages, going on 13. Also, it isn't up to the players to stop anyone, it's up to CCP to change the rules to allow the victims to win.

In this post i was mocking all the whining high sec eve-o pubbies who insist on CCP holding their hands and doing something about GSF, instead of allowing the players to do something about it.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Vauss Dutan
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#274 - 2012-04-25 19:53:16 UTC
Roime wrote:
Imagine if you would be playing a unique, ultra-modern sci-fi themed MMO. In this game, you would be an immortal being, piloting huge-ass spaceships and commanding the wealth of the nations. The single-shard universe of this game would be dynamic, shaped by player actions, with deep and complex gameplay mechanics giving birth to a multitude of behavioral patterns, which in turn form living subcultures totally unique to the virtual universe of this game.

Sounds cool, right?

Now imagine this game has no Evil. No Horde. It's so mature and realistic, that "evil" and "good" are just shades of neutral. Terrible actions can be justified. It's farmable NPCs are so faceless and stupid, that you couldn't really hate or fear them. People engage in minor conflicts, some over territory, most just for thirst of blood.

Then a creative player enters the field. He dreams big, and has worked tediously to achieve a position where he has the resources to make these dreams real in the game universe. What is his dream?

A major, all-engulfing WAR. An era of full-scale total annihilation, where tens and tens of thousands of human players clash in a fantastic escalation of exploding spaceship pixels. A conflict of unprecedented scale in the human history of online gaming. Not an everyday gudfite, but a really very ******* EPIC FIGHT.

He tries his best. He sacrifices the reputation of a whole alliance to become the Horde, to give Evil concrete shape that YOU could hate. A shape that is both ugly and scary in it's sheer size and might. One that you would want to stop by any means necessary. One that would make you break your routines, unite with others and fly your amazing spaceships built for this very purpose, into death or glory.

But no, you decide to cry like a baby because Goonies broke your toys and whine to make the devs change this incredible game so that nothing this glorious could ever take place, you want to go mining lalalala instead. Or save the Damsel for the 201th time.

**** you, and **** everyone like you.

If I had an alliance and even a slightest clue about 0.0 warfare, I'd knew exactly what I'd be doing now. I'm literally just waiting for someone in position to step up and do what needs to be done. This game happens in real time, none of us are getting any younger, and there won't be opportunities and tensions like this every week. Imagine what the game press would write, and what it would mean to EVE.

Make it happen, give New Eden this war.



This is what a real Eve player looks like.

Bravo!
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#275 - 2012-04-25 19:56:37 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:


I've been winding up you fruits for the last five years straight and while I've lost about 100b isk worth of ships to random pilots in the rest of eve I've never yet lost anything to goonswarm. That suggests that rather than hiding in safe space as suggested by your grand teapot its more a case of goons simply not bothering to do anything beyond trolling their enemies on the forums.

If this new initative now means the goons will "start bothering" than I consider it a progressive development and I'll await your agents with amusement in Minmatar and Amarrian lowsec.



I had to ask several people to even find out that your alliance is involved in FW. Why would we even bother going after you before? Nobody knows who your people are.


Thats kinda of the point I was making. You never bothered to play the game in space before. It was forum trolling (attempts) and nothing else. If the grand new strategy is going to be taking actions in space to back up your nonsense then its got to be a good thing. I honestly look forward to being hunted by you lot. Being number 1 greatest enemy of the swarm is a huge ego boost!

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#276 - 2012-04-25 19:58:32 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
As per 'the king of space':

"I am delighted to have found a leader for the Death Ѕquad project; Warr Akini of Bat Country. Warr recently diѕtinguished himself by leading a small team of Bat Country commandos in ganking 1000 exhumers in a week just to prove that they could. Warr is not just ‘some guy’ – he is a proven leader with a focus on hisec griefing. He and I have been conferring extensively and this new ЅIG is ready to be rolled out in the coming days.

The purpose of the Death Squad is to hunt down and punish every bleating pubbie who has felt that they could hide behind Concord and speak out against us without fear. In nullsec we have fought wars of extermination over seemingly innocuous offenses (such as Tetsujin’s sig)‚ yet human garbage lіke Jade Constantine and Issler Dainze reside securely, squatting in their empire shitholes, squawking about Goonswarm with no risk. No more.

The Death Ѕquad will sow terror among those who think themselves safe from us. Bounties will be paid for the killmails of our enemies; they will be hunted down with locator agents, scouted out by neutral characters, and purged. Extra bounties will be rewarded for those commandos who bring us particularly entertaining logs. The sort of wretch who the Death Ѕquad will be unleaѕhed upon is likely to produce a ~lot~ of chatporn when they finally get what they deserve.

When not hunting the enemies of the Ѕtate‚ the Death Squad wіll keep its skills sharp by ganking mission runners in deadspace Tengus, blowing up exhumers, and ensuring that our reach is inescapable, even in the ‘safest’ parts of EVE. "



http://www.evenews24.com/2012/04/24/leak-goonswarm-federation-ceo-update-goonswarm-unbound/



Talk about forcing CCP's hand to step in and nerf the game. Congratulations Alexander. You have just killed EVE


Never been called human garbage before, especially by a person who suggested harassing someone to get them to kill themselves. So not sure how bad I should feel. I am pretty sure that anyone that knows me in RL or in Eve would have a lot of things to say about me but "human garbage" would not be among them,.

Mittens is generally pretty savvy about his messaging. These comments seem less than his best. He can do better.

Issler
Dead Loss
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#277 - 2012-04-25 20:00:24 UTC
Goonswarm is just a big joke, it's ok.

They're a little bit like the 4chan of Eve.

Most of their members are under the age of 18 years old, which makes it easy for someone like Mittens to impress his personality upon them.

Why would you even care about or fear blobs of angry teenagers ? Fly around in a Justin Bieber spaceship and I'm sure they'll start giving you free isk.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#278 - 2012-04-25 20:03:46 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:


Never been called human garbage before


It only stings a bit the first time, after that it just feels good.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Surge Roth
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#279 - 2012-04-25 20:04:10 UTC
****** group of players getting mad over being called ******. Roll

No surprise here.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#280 - 2012-04-25 20:04:14 UTC
Dead Loss wrote:
Goonswarm is just a big joke, it's ok.

They're a little bit like the 4chan of Eve.



Guess what list you just got added to

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016