Ships & Modules

Yes, I believe if you buy the Insurance from the Corp Wallet, the Insurance payout will return to the Corp, rather than the Pilot. Provided of course the Pilot doesn't Repackage the ship or do anything else that would invalidate the Insurance.

However, my understanding is that Ship Replacement programs are typically done a little more ad hoc and less dependent on game mechanics. Something like if the Pilot is flying an approved ship type with an approved fit, and loses the ship while flying in a Corp Fleet OP with an approved FC the corp will reimburse the ship and fit.

Stupid fits, using too much bling, etc. getting popped doing something stupid on one's own, etc. is on the Pilot's head.

You just need to insure it in the corp hangar, then everybody in the corp can use it without voiding the insurance and the payout goes towards the corp wallet.

the way I've seen done is the corp will buy ships that are not flown very much. For example, logi ships. If a corp only flies a type of fleet that uses logis once a month, it's not very practical for every logi pilot in the corp to own one as they will rarely fly it. So the corp buys a few logi ships and just loans them out when needed to whatever pilot will fly it. Ships that are flown every day, the indivudual members will buy them of course and the corp can do whatever replacement plan they want

Way my alliance does it is thus:
- Build the ships, and sell them on to the pilots. Fittings can either be sourced off the market, or the same way if someone's got researched BPs around.
- Pilots are instructed to insure the ship.
- Alliance hands out new hulls to replace those lost in pvp.
- Insurance then pays for your new fit.

What pays for this? Taxes.

Get some dreads. Find a tech moon. Siege it. Take it. Bathe in Cristal. Voila -- SRP.

Having a ship reimbursement program while being in FW presents certain problems. First off, a FW corp wallet cannot tax LP rewards, which is where the majority of a FW corps members income comes from, not bounties or isk mission rewards. So corp income is low due to this. Secondly, a lot of FW corps don't have assets such a POCOs or valueable moons to get passive income on the corp level. So you have to figure out how to sustain a ship replacement program based on these factors, which generally means you have to severely limit it until corp income goes up.


One way to help support a ship replacement program would be to have all loot picked up in a corp fleet to be given to the FC to be deposited in a corp hangar and later liquidated when loot builds up. My experience in caldari militia is there really isn't a fair way that loot is handled overall. Most people just loot wrecks and don't give loot to people who lost ships. It's a free for all. Even when an FC says "ok give loot to the guys who lost ships" it's really not enforced that well.

Since FW corps mostly have their members making isk via LP, tax income is low. You can remedy this by running incursions in highsec (where most of the isk is just bountys/isk rewards for completing a site). This will also give your corp a chance to fly together and give newer, lower SP/less experienced members a "safer" alternative than the lowsec faction war missions. You generate lots of income this way.

Limiting what ships you replace (or what ships are corp owned) to certain shiptypes can really cut back costs. Logi is a good place to start. Realistically you're not going to be able replace everything unless you're members are making a ton of isk (then, they're rich, so what do you need a ship replacement program for other than for newbs that join up)? Really I would say one thing is to go the way of having corp owned ships rather than paying to replace random ships. You enforce standardized fits, fix the "I never have the ship FC asks for" issue, and for instance, if you replace a logi that some guy that logs on once a month lost, that isk probably isn't well spent. If you buy several corp logies, and have them returned after each fleet, they then can be redistributed to whoever is active at the time when they're needed to be used again. Whereas the guy that logs in once a month has that isk for a logi but isn't going to be doing much logi flying for you.

Any ship put on contract will void any insurance on it. Your FC should be distributing ships via trade and then people should be trading them back to avoid this.

how to avoid all this cra... i mean overhead: Lower taxes

Let your corpies buy and replace their own stuff.

I tend to agree with this. Having a corp JF service, you could easily pay for the JF fuel through a very minimal tax or just charge outright for the cost of fuel. You can easily fit IIRC 20 battlecruisers and the fittings in one JF hold.

Another idea is to have your corp establish a market (using the public market) where you sell ships/mods/rigs/ammo at just above jita prices. If you use corp orders this can be a passive income of sorts. If there is a big hub in the region you base out of make sure your prices are at least a bit above those prices or you might get cleaned out. Additionally if you setup buy orders in station your pilots and other pilots can sell loot directly to the corp, which can then be resold.

Though having corp ships like guardians/scimitars, t1 cruisers, and destroyers have proved to be very useful in the FW arena.

Step 1: Acquire tech moons
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Profit!