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About Exploration

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Perseo Aidheron
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-24 22:50:13 UTC
So i got tired of mission runinng and decided to do exploration but i have a few doubts.

1-which ship should i use for exploration
2-can i do exploration with my caracal
3-how do you make money with exploration
4-what exactly is it that you find and gain doing exploration since there are no exploration agents or missions, or are there??

thanks!
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#2 - 2012-04-24 22:52:57 UTC
1. Any ship you feel like that can run the sites (T3s are usually the end-goals for exploration, with drone ships like the Ishtar and Gila also being very popular)
2. Yes
3. You find stuff and then sell it
4. You find sites in the system that you have to probe down and then, if you're lucky, you can find valuable modules in the sites
Hallen Ambramotte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-04-24 23:43:19 UTC
mxzf wrote:
1. Any ship you feel like that can run the sites (T3s are usually the end-goals for exploration, with drone ships like the Ishtar and Gila also being very popular)
2. Yes
3. You find stuff and then sell it
4. You find sites in the system that you have to probe down and then, if you're lucky, you can find valuable modules in the sites

What do you mean you find stuff in 3?

He says "You've already had breakfast." I ask "But what about second breakfast?"

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#4 - 2012-04-24 23:50:51 UTC
Hallen Ambramotte wrote:
mxzf wrote:
1. Any ship you feel like that can run the sites (T3s are usually the end-goals for exploration, with drone ships like the Ishtar and Gila also being very popular)
2. Yes
3. You find stuff and then sell it
4. You find sites in the system that you have to probe down and then, if you're lucky, you can find valuable modules in the sites

What do you mean you find stuff in 3?


Faction and Deadspace modules and sometimes faction ship BPCs

The Drake is a Lie

Hallen Ambramotte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-04-24 23:52:44 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Hallen Ambramotte wrote:
mxzf wrote:
1. Any ship you feel like that can run the sites (T3s are usually the end-goals for exploration, with drone ships like the Ishtar and Gila also being very popular)
2. Yes
3. You find stuff and then sell it
4. You find sites in the system that you have to probe down and then, if you're lucky, you can find valuable modules in the sites

What do you mean you find stuff in 3?


Faction and Deadspace modules and sometimes faction ship BPCs

BPC's?

He says "You've already had breakfast." I ask "But what about second breakfast?"

Flakey Foont
#6 - 2012-04-24 23:53:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Flakey Foont
Xercodo wrote:
Hallen Ambramotte wrote:
mxzf wrote:
1. Any ship you feel like that can run the sites (T3s are usually the end-goals for exploration, with drone ships like the Ishtar and Gila also being very popular)
2. Yes
3. You find stuff and then sell it
4. You find sites in the system that you have to probe down and then, if you're lucky, you can find valuable modules in the sites

What do you mean you find stuff in 3?


Faction and Deadspace modules and sometimes faction ship BPCs
Hallen Ambramotte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-04-24 23:54:22 UTC
Flakey Foont wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Hallen Ambramotte wrote:
mxzf wrote:
1. Any ship you feel like that can run the sites (T3s are usually the end-goals for exploration, with drone ships like the Ishtar and Gila also being very popular)
2. Yes
3. You find stuff and then sell it
4. You find sites in the system that you have to probe down and then, if you're lucky, you can find valuable modules in the sites

What do you mean you find stuff in 3?


Faction and Deadspace modules and sometimes faction ship BPCs



Now he will ask "What is a BPC?"

It is a legit question and I honestly do not know. So, what is it?

He says "You've already had breakfast." I ask "But what about second breakfast?"

Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
#8 - 2012-04-25 00:41:59 UTC
Hallen Ambramotte wrote:

It is a legit question and I honestly do not know. So, what is it?

Blueprint Copy.

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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#9 - 2012-04-25 01:45:05 UTC
Hallen Ambramotte wrote:
Flakey Foont wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Hallen Ambramotte wrote:
mxzf wrote:
1. Any ship you feel like that can run the sites (T3s are usually the end-goals for exploration, with drone ships like the Ishtar and Gila also being very popular)
2. Yes
3. You find stuff and then sell it
4. You find sites in the system that you have to probe down and then, if you're lucky, you can find valuable modules in the sites

What do you mean you find stuff in 3?


Faction and Deadspace modules and sometimes faction ship BPCs



Now he will ask "What is a BPC?"

It is a legit question and I honestly do not know. So, what is it?


there are two types of blueprints (which modules and ships are made from). Blueprint originals do not run out. Unless you lose it, you can use it to produce an infinite number of that module as long as you have the minerals as well. Only tech 1 BPOs exist in game today, save for a few tech 2 BPOs which are a holdover from another era.

BPCs are blueprint copies, which are similar to BPOs except they have a limited number of runs. Basically, a BPC drop lets you build a certain number of whatever drops. Generally, exploration site rewards only give 1-run BPCs.
Eladanus
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-04-25 07:21:45 UTC
Hallen Ambramotte wrote:
mxzf wrote:
1. Any ship you feel like that can run the sites (T3s are usually the end-goals for exploration, with drone ships like the Ishtar and Gila also being very popular)
2. Yes
3. You find stuff and then sell it
4. You find sites in the system that you have to probe down and then, if you're lucky, you can find valuable modules in the sites

What do you mean you find stuff in 3?


To expand upon this: You find stuff in different types of site that you can scan down with probes.

You can find "Unknown" sites, which are wormholes or combat sites. From these you can kill the overseer/officer that spawns and sometimes drops shiney expensive loot.
Radar sites and Magnometric sites drop things that can be expensive too, though often also rubbishy electronic parts.
Gravimetric and Ladar sites contain asteroids and gas clouds, so only really worth running if youre a miner or set up for that kind of thing.

As for the actual probing, there are many youtube tutorials and articles about it. In general exploration doesnt take a whole lot of skills. Getting the 4 or 5 astrometrics skills up to 4 will help a lot, and only take about a week. Analyser, Codebreaker and Salvager 2s are useful, but generally only worth it if youre doing very high level sites. For high-sec level 4 in these is as much as you will need.

As said, any ship can do it really. Some sites (I think only the combat ones) have acceleration gates which limit the size of ship that can go through. T3s are end-game because their cruiser hulls let them get into pretty much every site, they have scanning bonuses to make that easier, they pack a punch and are well tanked/speed tanked. Before T3s lots of people could use a Drake or drone boat.
Perseo Aidheron
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-04-25 07:30:16 UTC
Now is when i ask... what is T3?? xD

Tier3?
Tech3?
Name of a ship named T3?
A cruiser Tech3?

which one of these is it?
Liam Mirren
#12 - 2012-04-25 07:54:37 UTC
T3 means T3 cruiser, one is very good at exploration (Tengu) most are mediocre at it and 1 is really bas at it (Legion).

For more info on exploration as a newbie check the link in my bio, one of my guides talks about it.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.

Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#13 - 2012-04-25 09:42:55 UTC
Liam Mirren wrote:
T3 means T3 cruiser, one is very good at exploration (Tengu) most are mediocre at it and 1 is really bas at it (Legion).

For more info on exploration as a newbie check the link in my bio, one of my guides talks about it.


although for some reason some people have started using t3 to refer to the new tier 3 BCs, which IMHO makes no sense. just a heads up.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-04-25 10:49:51 UTC
Hallen Ambramotte wrote:
Flakey Foont wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Hallen Ambramotte wrote:
mxzf wrote:
1. Any ship you feel like that can run the sites (T3s are usually the end-goals for exploration, with drone ships like the Ishtar and Gila also being very popular)
2. Yes
3. You find stuff and then sell it
4. You find sites in the system that you have to probe down and then, if you're lucky, you can find valuable modules in the sites

What do you mean you find stuff in 3?


Faction and Deadspace modules and sometimes faction ship BPCs



Now he will ask "What is a BPC?"

It is a legit question and I honestly do not know. So, what is it?


And now have reported you for a block. As you only troll legit forums.

Hope you are happy Hallen, if CCP finds out that banning your account will be best idea.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-04-25 10:54:45 UTC
Himnos Altar wrote:
Liam Mirren wrote:
T3 means T3 cruiser, one is very good at exploration (Tengu) most are mediocre at it and 1 is really bas at it (Legion).

For more info on exploration as a newbie check the link in my bio, one of my guides talks about it.


although for some reason some people have started using t3 to refer to the new tier 3 BCs, which IMHO makes no sense. just a heads up.


Indeed confusing at times.

Luckily people tend to use:

t3 = tier 3 BC
T3 = Tech 3 cruisers.

And to OP.

Exploration means probing, which is best done in the T1 or T2 probing frigate of your race of choice.
Then reship to a ship that can run the site you found / was looking for.

Exploration consists of:

Combat site - pew pew and loot/salvage
Hacking site
Salvage site
Mining site
Analyse site
Gas mining site
Wormholes
*anything I have missed but will be added by others*

Each site does require a different ships/modules to complete. You make money out of the items / bounties in each site.

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Lyric Lahnder
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-04-25 14:40:36 UTC
For starters you might want to use your races scanning frigate. For the Caldari its the Heron, and its the best out of all four simply because it has the most cpu. Tech II variant of this is the Buzzard and is even better. But the T3 Cruiser the tengu is the best because it can get scan probe bonuses dps and tank bonuses cloaky, and interdiction nullified, its the whole package.

Another thing you can do is, Scan down a site, bookmark it. Have your caracal set up for combat. Return to the site in your caracal clear it and loot.

Getting good at scanning sites will help you get better at scanning down other players with combat probes. Which can be fit to a heron, it can fit an expanded core probe launcher. This will make you valuable as scout for fleets.

Just makes sure to your heron you fit two small gravitational capicitor upgrade I's for rigs to decrease scanning time.

Grav sites: Are rocks, youll need a miner(boring...) Sell these bookmarks to miners if you can.
Radar Sites: Combat + codebreaker : Stuff related to invention.
Mag sites: Combat, Salvager or Analyzer: rare salvage, components, blueprints, used for cosmos modules.
Ladar Sites: Combat, Gas clouds, or Blue prints or skill books related to gas mining. (All gas stuff is expensive if theres nothing to loot there leave it). High sec clouds suck.
Cosmic Anomilies: All combat sites chance of faction dead space mods dropping.

Untill they fix smuggling, boosters gas cloud harvesting for boosters isn't a wide spread profession.

If you want something different from missions scanning definitely is.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#17 - 2012-04-25 15:03:32 UTC  |  Edited by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
I got started into exploration after I'd been playing for months, so my experience on doing it with as low a skill set as you probably have is limited. I'll skip over the "how to start now" and suggest some longer-term goals based on my experience.

I'd suggest an early goal being a T2-fitted battlecruiser. It will take you a couple of months to really flesh out the skills for a ship like that, but if you know what you're doing, a BC can get you through a DED 4/10 site that *can* have a payout of several hundred million isk.

For example, I started out in a Harbinger. I used T2 guns (if you use lasers, T2 scorch crystals are a necessity in PvE), armor resists/repairers, cap recharges, and heat sinks. I also had a T1 afterburner. Add a T2 codebreaker for radar sites, as those are probably your most reliable source of steady income.

A quick check in Evemon shows that a fresh character could be flying this harbinger in 3 months, with the last month spent getting Hacking 5 and bumping astrometric skills to all 4s. Adding some engineering, gunnery and armor skills to make the ship a much more solid fit puts another month on the queue. The best part is, every single skill on this plan feeds right into being able to fly a Legion, which is my exploration ship of choice. The skills for moving up to a legion take less than two months to train. Of course, you'll need to get the cash to buy a T3 to fly it.

So, a recap:
-Train for the battlecruiser of your choice. I would recommend either a Drake or Harbinger.
-Use that ship for exploration while you train all your module skills to use T2. Save up your isk and learn the ropes. Try not to get blown up in your first DED 4/10.
-Train for the T3 for the race of BC you chose. I suggested either Drake or Harbinger because they'll lead you into the Tengu or Legion respectively, and those are by far the better solo PvE ships.
- Figure out what you want to train next, because now you've got options.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#18 - 2012-04-25 15:07:00 UTC  |  Edited by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
Liam Mirren wrote:
T3 means T3 cruiser, one is very good at exploration (Tengu) most are mediocre at it and 1 is really bas at it (Legion).


The Legion is bad at exploration? I won't have you tarnishing my ship's good name.P She was a fine ship and the only loss I've ever felt the least bit carebear-ish about.

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Liam Mirren
#19 - 2012-04-25 17:20:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Liam Mirren
No extra em/thermal resists means it's no good in Amarr space, at least not to the same lvl as, say, a tengu or Prot can work in their own space and unlike the loki it can't switch damage type so it's no good in minmatar space either. Cap dependency means it's not brilliant in WH either, it's handy because you don't need ammo but that's a bit of damned praising.

The laser sub isn't great, the drone sub isn't worth mentioning. So... yeah, sadly it's really no good at all compared to other T3s, doesn't mean I won't fly it but when a newbie asks if the Legion is a good ship then I'll have to be realistic.

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