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CCP - Why are we allowing one alliance to control eve?
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hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#221 - 2012-04-25 11:50:25 UTC
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:

Wheels are in motion and goons would do well to keep BoB in mind.


Yes a vague threat from a random alt holds great weight and is sure to give us cause for concern.

I'd ship all my stuff out of VFK and scurry back to Jita but some dumb Goons would probably blow it up. Ugh

That right there will be your downfall, arrogance.

And you were doing so well until you gave the standard goon reply of 'STFU your an alt'. Why would I post as my main and invite unwanted attention on my activity.

Pog mo thoin

Herold Oldtimer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#222 - 2012-04-25 11:51:28 UTC
I am sorry but I doubt CCP can explain why we let goons controll everything. The ones that are the most capable to answer that is us.

I let them because they leave me alone.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#223 - 2012-04-25 11:58:09 UTC
remember when these kinds of threads were about band of brothers?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#224 - 2012-04-25 12:18:04 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
EFF ONEF1 wrote:
only reason goons "control" eve is because people let them.



I don't recal 'letting them". Anyone else. WHO let them do this ???? Roll

Who 'let' you post here ??


You let them by omitting to do anything about them.

Edmund Burke wrote:
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.



And what great FIREPOWER have you unleashed lately. It would help if you ever undocked.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Tinnin Sylph
Perkone
Caldari State
#225 - 2012-04-25 12:21:54 UTC
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:

That right there will be your downfall, arrogance.

And you were doing so well until you gave the standard goon reply of 'STFU your an alt'. Why would I post as my main and invite unwanted attention on my activity.



Heh. More likely you're yet another of a long steam of jumped up nobodies prophesying that they will bring us down.

But it's kinda cute that you think we care what you're up to.

Heh.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#226 - 2012-04-25 12:22:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


And what great FIREPOWER have you unleashed lately. It would help if you ever undocked.


I'm a carebear, and I'm proud of it, having lived in wormholes for a year or so on old account I know a little about protecting what I own, I've lost ships to roaming gangs, I've killed ships belonging to roaming gangs.

Personally if Goonswarm don't bother me, I won't bother them it's called live and let live. As for undocking? I do it all the time.

[sarcasm]Actually looking at your battleclinic record, my old account has more kills and losses than you do so I can safely say that based on battleclinics API records I've unleashed more firepower than you have if you want to compare epeens P[/sarcasm]

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT
#227 - 2012-04-25 12:27:08 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
remember when these kinds of threads were about band of brothers?


Usually started by a member of Goons.

The OP says it all right in the title of the thread.

"CCP- Why are WE allowing one alliance to control Eve?

I don't know why are WE allowing one alliance to control Eve?

Why don't WE do something about it?
DarkWrath
Twilight Penguin Inc
#228 - 2012-04-25 12:33:21 UTC
Imo Goons don't control EVE and even if they did why should CCP do anything about it?

It's our game to play as we wish as long as we do it within the rules of the game.

As for Goons they're not really any different to any previous power, there's always something or someone else that will come along and beat them and start the cycle again.
ConranAntoni
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#229 - 2012-04-25 12:34:01 UTC
Gas OP, ban thread.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#230 - 2012-04-25 12:35:09 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

[sarcasm]Actually looking at your battleclinic record, my old account has more kills and losses than you do so I can safely say that based on battleclinics API records I've unleashed more firepower than you have if you want to compare epeens P[/sarcasm]


But how many Botting Macks has my alt killed ? Twisted

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#231 - 2012-04-25 12:35:50 UTC
ConranAntoni wrote:
Gas OP, ban thread.


Is that a RL threat ? Careful, careful.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#232 - 2012-04-25 12:36:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
DarkWrath wrote:
Imo Goons don't control EVE and even if they did why should CCP do anything about it?

It's our game to play as we wish as long as we do it within the rules of the game.

As for Goons they're not really any different to any previous power, there's always something or someone else that will come along and beat them and start the cycle again.


You have not been playing for very long have you ???????? Lol You are so funny and naive.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
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Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#233 - 2012-04-25 12:48:08 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.

Examples

Jita
Ice Mining
Tech prices.

As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...



man-up or gtfo back to WoW
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#234 - 2012-04-25 12:49:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


But how many Botting Macks has my alt killed ? Twisted


Macks don't shoot back, it doesn't count for epeen purposes, everything I've shot at at least shoots back even if it is mostly NPCs

Anyway enough of the meaningless banter, if you don't want Goonswarm to control the game, do something about it, even if it's just to park as many alts in Jita as you can so that less Goons can enter the system, if Jitas population cap is hit the gates stop working, we proved this last year in the Jita riots. Much as I dislike Jita, it's a focal point for unrest and dissension of one kind or another.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Daleth Prem
Holy Cookie
#235 - 2012-04-25 13:11:31 UTC
Power resides only where men believe it resides. [...] A shadow on the wall, yet shadows can kill. And ofttimes a very small man can cast a very large shadow.
Samantha Utama
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#236 - 2012-04-25 13:13:28 UTC
CCP have already given you your answer. They even made a video explaining the steps.

Now get off your lazy ass. Cool
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#237 - 2012-04-25 13:14:33 UTC
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:

Wheels are in motion and goons would do well to keep BoB in mind.


Yes a vague threat from a random alt holds great weight and is sure to give us cause for concern.

I'd ship all my stuff out of VFK and scurry back to Jita but some dumb Goons would probably blow it up. Ugh



Ship it to Syndicate and get ahead of the rush (returning to your roots, ~wulfpax~, freed of the shackles of bathing in Tc, etc)

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
stoicfaux
#238 - 2012-04-25 13:22:30 UTC
CCP really needs to implement a PLEX for Popcorn program.

/popcorn

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
hermot
The No One Cares Corp
#239 - 2012-04-25 13:37:28 UTC
However crap it is for some people, it is working as intended and is what makes this game great.

Sandbox you see. Its good and bad all at the same time.

Although i must agree that tech moons shouldn't "all be in the north". But it is what it is.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#240 - 2012-04-25 13:41:00 UTC
hermot wrote:


Although i must agree that tech moons shouldn't "all be in the north". But it is what it is.



yup. In the initial game planning, they utterly missed the potential for domination of one single important commodity.

It was about as well thought out as the role of Titans. Roll

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882