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State Protectorate Caldari State 254
hedge betts Shiyurida State Protectorate Caldari State Likes received: 254	#201 - 2012-04-25 07:43:58 UTC 1 The mittani is like Samson. Get rid of his ped0 bear fluff on his chin and goon will goaway. Pog mo thoin

State War Academy Caldari State 5,978
Marlona Sky State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 5,978	#202 - 2012-04-25 08:24:37 UTC hedge betts Shiyurida wrote: The mittani is like Samson. Get rid of his ped0 bear fluff on his chin and goon will goaway. His tilde key is his weakness. Remove it and his powers will seize to exist!

Sephira Galamore

Inner Beard Society

Kvitravn.

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#203 - 2012-04-25 09:02:57 UTC | Edited by: Sephira Galamore

Henry Haphorn wrote:

[...] Some time ago, there use to be a powerbloc that controlled much of Eve Online known as BoB. They were to the Goons as a government was to anarchists. BoB and Goons were the two most opposing forces at the time. Although I think the Goons use to operate under a different name before they were known as Goons. Can a Goonie please confirm?

Anyways, BoB wanted order and control over New Eden and its free market economy. Goons felt differently. They wanted chaos to be thrown into the mix. Overtime, one battle after another and one mismanagement after another on the part of BoB, the Goons won and BoB was no more.

Goons still like to invoke chaos even though they control the economy now. But eventually the Goons will be overthrown by another challenger who is willing to take them on for control of the free market economy. [...]

Wow, I just had a revelation. No idea if someone else noticed this before but..

Goons are The Shadows!
(As in, Babylon 5)

I wasn't around when BoB was big but from what you wrote, BoB were the Vorlons.

The Goons ask.. "What do you want?".. and then scam you to death.
Most people consider the Goons as evil and a threat to New Eden. Is this just propaganda of the likes of BoB?
GSF and their allies cause conflict and chaos as a means of bringing New Eden forward, while alliances with a BoB mindset try to force order wherever their power reaches.

Also, if you go to VFK, you will die!

(Now I think I regret that, while watching B5, I realized that the Shadows are no more evil than the Vorlons were good and stuff. Makes it difficult to be mad at them Goons now... :p)

But keep in mind, even a long night is followed by a morning after, and one day it's time to move beyond the rim ;)

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Josef Djugashvilis Likes received: 3,578	#204 - 2012-04-25 09:27:25 UTC Sverige Pahis wrote: Oh no, it's the assault of the nameless faceless NPC alts, round #4718156 At least this alt did not manage to lose 10058 votes This is not a signature.

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Zora'e Likes received: 83	#205 - 2012-04-25 09:27:42 UTC Garibaldi Sinatra wrote: One might also ask why are we allowing the British Empire to control the entire world; weilding the puppet America state as our 40 pound Rottweiler? Your Rottweiler is only 40 lbs? That is a sickly dog. I won't say you are stupid, but you're not exactly on the Zombie menu either.

Perkone Caldari State 365
Tinnin Sylph Perkone Caldari State Likes received: 365	#206 - 2012-04-25 09:44:33 UTC Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Sverige Pahis wrote: Oh no, it's the assault of the nameless faceless NPC alts, round #4718156 At least this alt did not manage to lose 10058 votes Nor was it competent/important enough to earn 10058 votes in the first place so it could then lose them hilariously. Heh.

hedge betts Shiyurida

State Protectorate

Caldari State

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#207 - 2012-04-25 10:27:16 UTC

Tinnin Sylph wrote:

Josef Djugashvilis wrote:

Sverige Pahis wrote:

Oh no, it's the assault of the nameless faceless NPC alts, round #4718156

At least this alt did not manage to lose 10058 votes Smile

Nor was it competent/important enough to earn 10058 votes in the first place so it could then lose them hilariously.

"competent/important enough" BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAH. You goons crack me up.

Seriously though iv seen other goon clam that the cfc is twenty thousnd strong. So why did he only get 10058 votes. Did some of you forget to log in your alts or is the alliance showing cracks.

Pog mo thoin


Tinnin Sylph Perkone Caldari State Likes received: 365	#208 - 2012-04-25 10:34:48 UTC So yeas, competent/important enough to be able to build and lead an alliance with sufficient numbers to guarantee him over 10k votes. What part of this are you struggling with? I'll be happy to explain, you see we Goons pride ourselves on taking time to help the less fortunate. Heh.

hedge betts Shiyurida

State Protectorate

Caldari State

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#209 - 2012-04-25 10:50:02 UTC

Tinnin Sylph wrote:

So yeas, competent/important enough to be able to build and lead an alliance with sufficient numbers to guarantee him over 10k votes.

What part of this are you struggling with? I'll be happy to explain, you see we Goons pride ourselves on taking time to help the less fortunate.

Every despot need his groupies.

And you didnt answer the question. Because I know for a.fact that members of fatal ascension are grumbling about how they are being treated by GSF.

Pog mo thoin

Tanya Powers

Doomheim

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#210 - 2012-04-25 10:52:43 UTC

evereplicant wrote:

blahblahblah

CCP has nothing to aloud or not, it's a player driven content and this means you either pick your guns and get some friends to do something about it or you can play the victim and cry mumma help, mumma will not come save your ass.

I'm not saying it's fine what I see, but instead of crying I found my way to do something about it. That simple.

Caldari Grand Prix Engineering 31
EFF ONEF1 Caldari Grand Prix Engineering Likes received: 31	#211 - 2012-04-25 10:55:47 UTC 1 only reason goons "control" eve is because people let them.

Xpaulusx

Naari LLC

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#212 - 2012-04-25 11:03:16 UTC

evereplicant wrote:

So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.

Examples

Jita
Ice Mining
Tech prices.

As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...

I think you should go to VFK and surrender

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Tinnin Sylph

Perkone

Caldari State

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#213 - 2012-04-25 11:04:28 UTC | Edited by: Tinnin Sylph

hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:

And you didnt answer the question.

Goonswarm Federation has 8546 members. Factor in the many of those are alts/nebwies/bitter vets who don't log in... Plus nobody in our alliance 'had' to vote for him, nor did our allies... Because they're allies you see, not pets. Plenty of Goons didn't vote for him, I for one didn't bother to vote at all. And he still pulled in 10k votes so heh. Oh and FA members grumbling? Good intel there sport.

Heh.

Viziam Amarr Empire 4
Frank Corncob Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 4	#214 - 2012-04-25 11:12:42 UTC So the bully kicked down your sand castle, and he is too big to beat alone so why don't you get your friends and gang up on him.

hedge betts Shiyurida

State Protectorate

Caldari State

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#215 - 2012-04-25 11:15:50 UTC

Tinnin Sylph wrote:

hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:

And you didnt answer the question.

Very good Intel my friend.

Wheels are in motion and goons would do well to keep BoB in mind.

Pog mo thoin

INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 114,583
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic Likes received: 114,583	#216 - 2012-04-25 11:16:12 UTC EFF ONEF1 wrote: only reason goons "control" eve is because people let them. I don't recal 'letting them". Anyone else. WHO let them do this ???? Who 'let' you post here ?? "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck." - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Mr Kidd

Center for Advanced Studies

Gallente Federation

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#217 - 2012-04-25 11:17:20 UTC

Arkturus McFadden wrote:

If people hate them so much, why don't you do something about it instead of whining on the forums? How about someone like the Mittani unify alliances into waging war on the Goonswarm? It's all very simple really, just takes patience and time. Two traits next to all prospectors know.

Oh sure. Goons have been around for how long?

Don't ban me, bro!


Tinnin Sylph Perkone Caldari State Likes received: 365	#218 - 2012-04-25 11:23:45 UTC hedge betts Shiyurida wrote: Wheels are in motion and goons would do well to keep BoB in mind. Yes a vague threat from a random alt holds great weight and is sure to give us cause for concern. I'd ship all my stuff out of VFK and scurry back to Jita but some dumb Goons would probably blow it up. Heh.

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Francisco Bizzaro Likes received: 150	#219 - 2012-04-25 11:23:53 UTC Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: EFF ONEF1 wrote: only reason goons "control" eve is because people let them. I don't recal 'letting them". Search your memory. Because apparently, you did.