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jabajools
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-04-25 07:19:29 UTC
Hmm recent patch decided to add bounties cool no big deal. But however a few suggestions that obviously ccp did not take into account

- considering you dont get any loot atall not even mods from drones now. the bounties are extremely low compared to the other rat's in null sec.
- Drones have a concord bounty now why the hell dont you get sec status?

Also a few questions you say eve is player friendly new player friendly. well look at this all the actions ccp have made recently are causing mineral prices to rocket .

- getting rid of compounds is the most stupidest thing for the eve economy CCP could ever of done. When my battleship hul starts costing me 400m again and about 400m to fit it is the time eve loose a very large amount of player base?

Things on this patch that went wrong and only really take logic to realize you shouldn't do it and if you do at least do it right
Zarere
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-04-25 08:30:30 UTC
The entitlement is strong in this post.

It'll be a good thing if the prices of minerals take a hike, would mean less supercaps/caps produced, and maybe people will start using battlecruisers more.

Battleships once had the same rarity that titans have these days, i for one would like to see those days again.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#3 - 2012-04-25 08:59:09 UTC
I think it was wrong to remove alloys and give drones bounties.
Gunnlaugur
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2012-04-25 10:39:56 UTC
I dont really think that is was wrong to remove the alloys, but no sec status and no loot is defenetly a problem,

maybe this is something we can see change with the summer?
Daeva Teresa
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-04-25 10:48:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Daeva Teresa
It was stated in some recent dev blog that removing the drone alloys is only first step to rewamp the drones. I think we will see this to have something to do with new drone modules and salvage drones that we will see in inferno, since CCP stated that they want some other ways to push the new modules into the game than seeding BPO.

I think drones will get some loot tables but with quite different loot than pirates.

CCP really please dont use Upgraded, Limited, Experimental and Prototype in item names. It sounds like the item is actually worse than basic meta 1 item. Use Calibrated, Enhanced, Optimized and Upgraded. Its really easy to understand that the item is better than meta 1 and its also in alphabetic order.
Kestrix
The Whispering
#6 - 2012-04-25 11:59:04 UTC
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Also a few questions you say eve is player friendly new player friendly. well look at this all the actions ccp have made recently are causing mineral prices to rocket


Your not taking into account that these new players also have a far higher earning capacity through mining thanks to the increased mineral prices.
jabajools
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-25 12:10:00 UTC
Kestrix wrote:
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Also a few questions you say eve is player friendly new player friendly. well look at this all the actions ccp have made recently are causing mineral prices to rocket


Your not taking into account that these new players also have a far higher earning capacity through mining thanks to the increased mineral prices.



Yes true but really who is going to want to sit there for hours on end mining when you first start eve. i guess that is not really a true introduction too eve. and to force new players into mining to make more money then the term EVE IS YOURS is therefore not true. and wasted sp will have to be put in industry. witch maybe new players would not have done other wise

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The entitlement is strong in this post.

It'll be a good thing if the prices of minerals take a hike, would mean less supercaps/caps produced, and maybe people will start using battlecruisers more.

Battleships once had the same rarity that titans have these days, i for one would like to see those days again.


why would that be a good thing? making isk would be so much harder simply because if you cant afford a bs the grind to get one becomes longer so for example the carebears in highsec who run missions will have to run in a bc? because they can not afford a bs? and with the money you get from missions witch is terrible then most people will give up on the grind and eve player base will drop.

Also the planned changes to the drake is pathetic everyone uses drakes and nerfing it once again ( 4th time) would be actually stupid.

The main problem with ccp is they try to make you think they listen to what the players want but really they dont. Like ccp said if plex prices keep rising they will have to step in and moderate the market. there is 2 reason's why that is BS
1. is because eve have always said that the universe is player controlled and doing that would be a huge contradiction
2. because the higher the plex prices the more people will buy plex so they make more rl money so why would they change it?
Ikonia
Royal Amarr Expeditions
#8 - 2012-04-25 12:28:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Ikonia
The changes simply balance those things which were not really balanced in the eyes of CCP.

That the changes will impact some players more and some less is not really new. But of course, it always hurts when u lose something u were calculating fixed with. The changes on the drones will of course cause more impact to hisec than to drone regions. But compared to the player population in hisec the drone region inhabitants are only like 2% of the players. Though, its really annoying for those.

I am explorer and from my point of view the changes are simply minor. Yes, mineral prices will go up - means more business for me, which is good, since i am in contract with corps and get provision for bookmarks of hidden belts with rare ores in hisec. That now a lot of metal scraps drop impacts my bay capacity, but i never filled up my Orca totally - which could be happen now. As i was able to reprocess metal scraps, this comes in the long positive for me now and was until now a relative useless skill - which changes for me. Drone sites i wasnt even going for and i mostly considered them waste of time - this now might change also.

The only thing that hurts me a bit - i have now to bring back my mining vessels into game and also grind down the roids in the sites i scan down. So i might use more time per single signature, but i get out much more of it :)

Cheers
jabajools
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-04-25 12:32:56 UTC  |  Edited by: jabajools
Ikonia wrote:
The changes simply balance those things which were not really balanced in the eyes of CCP.

That the changes will impact some players more and some less is not really new. But of course, it always hurts when u lose something u were calculating fixed with. The changes on the drones will of course cause more impact to hisec than to drone regions. But compared to the player population in hisec the drone region inhabitants are only like 2% of the players. Though, its really annoying for those.

I am explorer and from my point of view the changes are simply minor. Yes, mineral prices will go up - means more business for me, which is good, since i am in contract with corps and get provision for bookmarks of hidden belts with rare ores in hisec. That now a lot of metal scraps drop impacts my bay capacity, but i never filled up my Orca totally - which could be happen now. As i was able to reprocess metal scraps, this comes in the long positive for me now and was until now a relative useless skill - which changes for me. Drone sites i wasnt even going for and i mostly considered them waste of time - this now might change also.

The only thing that hurts me a bit - i have now to bring back my mining vessels into game and also grind down the roids in the sites i scan down. So i might use more time per single signature, but i get out much more of it :)

Cheers


Well i do live in null sec drone region and nope it is not a good thing with bounties its about 100x worse. and mineral prices going up will effect everyone cause every ship will go up in price. meaning that everything you buy in eve will cost more.

Exploration is cool yeah and i some cases you will make more money for it but effectively does it balance out the amount you will have to pay more for your ships. the only people who benefit are people already set up to mine. but if you loose your hulk or you get ganked or loose a orca cost of replacing it will be nasty