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CCP - Why are we allowing one alliance to control eve?
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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#181 - 2012-04-25 05:30:17 UTC
Xander Riggs wrote:
Anslo wrote:

There's a difference between 1 alliance building up from scratch with no resources and a coalition of multiple well established and well built alliances with SOME resources not controlled by Goons.

Think harder next time.


No, there isn't. The only difference is time spent acquiring the resources. Do you think all those 0.0 alliances just popped into existence with their resources laid out for them? They had to take them from someone.


Ah, but here is where you are mistaken. EVE hasn't existed for centuries.

Why don't you pop into game and have a look at the Mittani's start date, then cross-reference it with EVE leaving beta.
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Javajunky
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#182 - 2012-04-25 05:38:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Javajunky
I find it absolutely hsyterical regarding the paranoia and angst there is in this game over a select group of people who are sitting in thier own corner of the Universe having fun. Oh no, there is a group of people more organized, motivated, smarter and cohesive than others in the sandbox. Of course they are going to be the dominant players in the game, until you prove you can muster the a better team they are in fact better than you. Yes they played their cards right and they are winning eve. You can grow a pair and work together to outplay them or move to another part of space and play the game

I can't remember at what point in my life where I was told I was guarnateed things were going to be fair. Fair is losers, fair is for the weak. Fair is for the people who don't want to earn it. You want to feel good go play world of warcraft. I play Eve because you get the thrill of victory and the very real agony of defeat. Too bad you're probably growing up as part of the entitlement generation and you'll never know what it's like to work your @ss off and earn what you get in life.

Empire pubbies are the equivalent of the entitlement generation and crapping in thier hats is what makes this game great.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#183 - 2012-04-25 05:40:37 UTC
<< Empire pubbie, you can't crap in my hat though someone already stole it P

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#184 - 2012-04-25 05:48:01 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
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Stopped reading right there, plus [/facepalm].

Ni.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#185 - 2012-04-25 05:52:50 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
<< Empire pubbie, you can't crap in my hat though someone already stole it P

Did you try to double your hats ?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#186 - 2012-04-25 06:04:01 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
<< Empire pubbie, you can't crap in my hat though someone already stole it P

Did you try to double your hats ?


Double hats? that's blasphemy, one hat should be enough for everyone.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#187 - 2012-04-25 06:14:15 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?...

They don't control EVE they're just the only nullsec alliance that can be bothered to interact with highsec
Vetorept Fera
Doomheim
#188 - 2012-04-25 06:14:59 UTC
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
Ah yes but you see it's a sandbox...




When the sandbox gets too full- it's time to clean out the turds...

In pace requiescat
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#189 - 2012-04-25 06:15:24 UTC
Javajunky wrote:
Oh no, there is a group of people more motivated, willing, and cohesive than others in the sandbox.



fixed that for you.

who made this thread anyhow?
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Andrey Wartooth
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#190 - 2012-04-25 06:21:59 UTC
Xorv wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.


Yup, you have no idea what you're talking about.


Because Ill sandbox it again, sandbox is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is sandbox by sandbox sandbox sandbox.
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#191 - 2012-04-25 06:26:23 UTC
Yeah, what others have said. If you don't like something, do something about it! Nobody is going to hand you gameplay on a platter. If there is a group of guys ganking people nonstop in an asteroid belt in your system and you're just sitting in station crying about it, you're doing it wrong.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#192 - 2012-04-25 06:56:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcanis
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.

Examples

Jita
Ice Mining
Tech prices.

As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...


In 2007 it was BOB in 2010 it was the NC, last year it was the DRF, now it's goons.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Commonwealth Vanguard
#193 - 2012-04-25 07:05:02 UTC
Idiot. Sandbox doesnt mean everyone gets to do exactly what they want, when they want and all dance around a campfire holding hands. It means it is player driven, NOT YOU DRIVEN.

If you want to knock GSF off teh throne, go and do it, gather your immeasurable strength and attack them, take the space, take teh moons and drive them off.

You cant. So you cry for ccp to do it for you.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Sardon Darkstar
Omnivores of Mediocrity
Omnivores
#194 - 2012-04-25 07:14:23 UTC
It's like the Romans, the Greek, the Inca's, the BoB, they rise and fall, rise and fall, rise and fall.
If its not an outside force, then something on the inside will make it implode.

Patience, my young padawan. Smile
Theron Urian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#195 - 2012-04-25 07:15:06 UTC
One fact of life is that there will always be somebody that is stronger, faster, smarter, or more successful than you are. The eve sandbox is the same way, right now that "somebody" is the Goons, and the thing that they have over you is numbers.

You have five choices that I can see.

1. Cry, and complain in hopes mommy and daddy CCP will do some thing. (please don't do this, no one wants to hear it)

2. Do some thing to take them down (who cares if you succeed or fail, at least you had the balls to do something)

3. Try to join them.

4. Move far far away.

5. Be smart and look at these basically large player driven events as an opportunity to have fun and or take advantage of the market. Are the goons killing Hulks in mass? Then start producing and selling hulks, copping and selling hulk blueprints, or many of the other opportunity left open. Use your brain.
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#196 - 2012-04-25 07:16:18 UTC
Oh no, it's the assault of the nameless faceless NPC alts, round #4718156
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#197 - 2012-04-25 07:17:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Stock up on Arty and blasters
Produce thrashers, catalysts and 'nados
Sell to Goonswarm & Hulkageddon pilots
?
Profit

HulkaJitageddon is not griefing it's an opportunity to make ISK hand over foot at the expense of somebody elses misery, it's also huge fun for most of those involved, they've both been well advertised, if you get caught with with your pants down then LOL. In essence it's what Eve is all about, can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen and go play something else while it's going on.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#198 - 2012-04-25 07:18:12 UTC
Theron Urian wrote:
1. Cry, and complain in hopes mommy and daddy CCP will do some thing. (please don't do this, no one wants to hear it)

If only CONCORD was better and could blow gankers up before they gank.

Minority Report, was it?

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Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#199 - 2012-04-25 07:30:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Arkady Vachon
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Theron Urian wrote:
1. Cry, and complain in hopes mommy and daddy CCP will do some thing. (please don't do this, no one wants to hear it)

If only CONCORD was better and could blow gankers up before they gank.

Minority Report, was it?



Minority Report, yes. 'PreCrime' Unit.

OP probably precrimes all the time, which is why he never gets any...

But I digress...

Nothing Personal - Just Business...

Chaos Creates Content
Theron Urian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#200 - 2012-04-25 07:36:47 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Theron Urian wrote:
1. Cry, and complain in hopes mommy and daddy CCP will do some thing. (please don't do this, no one wants to hear it)

If only CONCORD was better and could blow gankers up before they gank.

Minority Report, was it?



Don't give them ideas. While the chance off that actually being put in game are about the same as a group of Victoria's secret models demanding that they pay me to pleasure them for the rest of my days, I am pretty sure some one will think that is a grand idea and will take up space on the interwebs with a post demanding it. The cycle must be broken, the herp derp must end here.

Side note. Good movie, great book.