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CCP killed my mini-profession today. Is yours next?
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Aggressive Nutmeg
#61 - 2012-04-24 22:17:29 UTC
Kobal81 wrote:
Conferming, one less scammer has left the game Big smile

That sentence does not mean what you think it means.

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.
Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2012-04-24 22:20:19 UTC
HTFU or GTFO

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 
Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-04-24 22:29:24 UTC
Ellie McAmber wrote:
Samillian wrote:
Contract -trading was a mini profession?

I honestly thought it was just a way to avoid having to get your hands dirty on the work face of the market and gaining maximum profits from rare items.


If by "getting your hands dirty" you mean "grind and babysit", then basically yes. Also, it was fun.
Happy for you if you like the market as it is.
But choice is always good, and it was taken away. Case in point is faction ships, which got this treatment some months ago.


If choice is good, why would you want me to not be able to choose to put my faction items on the market as oppose to contracts? You can still contract faction items. CCP just gave you more choice, they did not take any away.

It was ******** that faction items weren't on the market to begin with.

You realize that what you are saying makes no sense?

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#64 - 2012-04-25 00:07:36 UTC
Rath Kelbore wrote:

It was ******** that faction items weren't on the market to begin with.


The dirty secret is that faction items were left on the contract market as a way to draw people into using the contract market.

(There was also some original role-play reasoning that the empire factions didn't want faction modules/ships sold on the open market.)
EVE Stig
Doomheim
#65 - 2012-04-25 00:36:08 UTC
Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:
Prostitution is the oldest and most respected profession in the known Universe !!


Which is why we need WiS

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#66 - 2012-04-25 00:43:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Sasha Azala
They've killed my interest in looting wreaks.



Who the hell wants to keep looting worthless metal scraps, at least meta 0 was useful in a small way.
EVE Stig
Doomheim
#67 - 2012-04-25 01:01:19 UTC
Sasha Azala wrote:
They've killed my interest in looting wreaks.



Who the hell wants to keep looting worthless metal scraps, at least meta 0 was useful in a small way.


Man and I hated drone missions BEFORE this change

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
Zifrian
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2012-04-25 01:06:57 UTC
Great change, totally in support of it.

One thing that I hated with EVE IPH is that I couldn't get market prices for items I could build with BPC's from the LP store. I had to look in contracts, then total up all the parts, etc. Real pain.

Now the prices will update from market uploaders and I won't have to go looking around for the items. Single items are for selling on the market system, not the contract system. It's working as intended as far as I'm concerned.

So if you are unhappy with this change, I am happy. Net change to the game = 0

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Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#69 - 2012-04-25 01:19:34 UTC
EVE Stig wrote:
Sasha Azala wrote:
They've killed my interest in looting wreaks.



Who the hell wants to keep looting worthless metal scraps, at least meta 0 was useful in a small way.


Man and I hated drone missions BEFORE this change




At least my subs up in 4 days. I found missions fairly boring before they're even more boring now.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#70 - 2012-04-25 01:24:22 UTC
Sasha Azala wrote:
At least my subs up in 4 days. I found missions fairly boring before they're even more boring now.



Aw, i was liking the cut of your jib here on the forums.

You'll probably be back. I've left several times. Each more convinced it was forever than the last.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#71 - 2012-04-25 01:34:59 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Sasha Azala wrote:
At least my subs up in 4 days. I found missions fairly boring before they're even more boring now.



Aw, i was liking the cut of your jib here on the forums.

You'll probably be back. I've left several times. Each more convinced it was forever than the last.




Not so sure about that, done quite a few things in-game some of those things I have no interest in any longer. I could hang around for FW but not that confident that CCP won't mess that up. Been in and out since 2005 so maybe it's just time.
scooter Kondur
Doomheim
#72 - 2012-04-25 02:41:26 UTC
In fairness I have a number of SP in toons that have corporate contracting to V kind of a waste now Sad
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#73 - 2012-04-25 03:10:28 UTC
Sasha Azala wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
Sasha Azala wrote:
At least my subs up in 4 days. I found missions fairly boring before they're even more boring now.



Aw, i was liking the cut of your jib here on the forums.

You'll probably be back. I've left several times. Each more convinced it was forever than the last.




Not so sure about that, done quite a few things in-game some of those things I have no interest in any longer. I could hang around for FW but not that confident that CCP won't mess that up. Been in and out since 2005 so maybe it's just time.


Well they are getting rid of R&D agents (well theyre planning to if you see that video with CCP Guard I think where he says "if youre smart youll cash in before the epansion" or something to that effect) and forcing that system through FW (though youd think theyd give FW love before forcing the tech II market through it).

But hey, if yer not comin back anywsyd, wanna hook me up with your Isk?
Big smile

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Yes
CaptainFalcon07
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
#74 - 2012-04-25 08:36:14 UTC
What is more annoying is the trade/market bots that will start doing 0.01 isk wars with these modules.

CCP needs to fix the constant 0.01 isk wars by putting a hefty price change fee of 1%, instead of a 100 isk.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#75 - 2012-04-25 14:28:24 UTC
CaptainFalcon07 wrote:

CCP needs to fix the constant 0.01 isk wars by putting a hefty price change fee of 1%, instead of a 100 isk.


1% would be far far too severe.

They should probably raise the change fee from 100 ISK to 1000 ISK (which would result in a pretty good ISK sink). Maybe as much as 5000 ISK fee to change the order.

Maybe consider charging 0.005% of the market order amount to change the price. You won't want to go much higher then that or you will negatively affect the market.
Sid Hudgens
Doomheim
#76 - 2012-04-25 23:00:09 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
d of R&D agents (well theyre planning to if you see that video with CCP Guard I think where he says "if youre smart youll cash in before the epansion" or something to that effect) and forcing that system through FW (though youd think theyd give FW love before forcing the tech II market through it).

But hey, if yer not comin back anywsyd, wanna hook me up with your Isk?
Big smile


Dammit man! While I was training my alt up for scrapmetal processing I was also working on rep with a research agent corp.

Ok ... no problem.

On to plan C.

"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#77 - 2012-04-25 23:24:35 UTC
Ellie McAmber wrote:
CCP killed my mini-profession today. Is yours next?.


WAIT, Wait, wait!

I had better check this:
buy stuff on market - still works
favorite porn sites - still let me leach for free using Realplayer
sell stuff on market - still works (now in color!)
Get tips for helping on a mission - yep, that still works
Blow crap up and get isk - Yep
Trading via hauling - that works too
Sell stuff on contract - yeah
fukung.net - back up (cool, that was close)

Nope! I'm good.

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Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
#78 - 2012-04-25 23:50:23 UTC
There are all sorts of different types of trading than playing the .01 cent game.

Once you get out of Jita they open up. Even in the forge you can sucessfully sell things in other systems for different prices. People don't always want to take a 6 or 8 jump round trip.

I sell some stuff even right next to Jita, likely because undocking is a pain or war-decs keep cautious players from making that last jump.

.
Diamonica Norya
Pro Synergy
#79 - 2012-04-25 23:55:34 UTC
@ OP

I'm sorry to hear that the patch killed your mini-game and that EVE is a lot boring for you.

I'm sorry to hear that gun miners got their professions trashed

I'm sorry to hear the incursion runners also got their assaults and vanguards killed

I'm sorry to hear that Eve is a horrible place now

I'm sorry to hear that Jita is going to burn

I'm sorry to hear GSF is going to kill miners in highsec

I'm sorry to hear the GM's have godmodez that are even greater than Concord

omg! Eve is dying

***

Lastly I heard, PI and CQ are very interesting, maybe give them a try?
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2012-04-25 23:58:09 UTC
Ellie McAmber wrote:
But choice is always good, and it was taken away. Case in point is faction ships, which got this treatment some months ago.



HAHA. I have loved hearing this one over and over. You have it backwards. Choice is good. And choice is exactly what was ADDED.

Before you had no choice. You had to sell these items only by contract. Now you can CHOOSE to buy from a contract or the market.

You may not like it. But at least get your argument correct. There was no choice before.