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CCP - Why are we allowing one alliance to control eve?
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#141 - 2012-04-24 17:10:42 UTC
JC Anderson wrote:
Seriously though... I don't like any of you goons but you know?

EVE wouldn't be EVE without them... And thats simply the way it is.


Agreed.

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Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
#142 - 2012-04-24 17:12:48 UTC
trademeyourmoneys wrote:
Only way i can see to cause havoc to goons if for everyone to leave 0.0 until goons get bored.

I have a better idea. Why don't all the faceless NPC corp posters, who hate goons so much, get their mains out of hisec and fight goons instead?
hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#143 - 2012-04-24 17:13:15 UTC
Can't wait for the day goons implode( it may be closer than you think). No mega corp/alliance lasts forever.

Odds on the Japanese will be the hammer to fall.

Pog mo thoin

Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#144 - 2012-04-24 17:13:24 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Xander Riggs wrote:


So, if I were to bring my gun club to Eve or a book club rose to power they'd have to be artificially limited on how successful they could be because they already know each other outside the game? Special cases have another word they tend to go by: Precendents. You're just making excuses for interrupting the natural flow of gameplay by saying 'He started it!'


No. Nowhere did I say they should be limited. I am making the point the the case of the goons is different than the case of BoB or another large alliance that you said has come and gone. You said goons would follow the same, so I was countering your argument. I also never said "he started it." You really should think critically before responding.


Then what are you arguing? Why are you here? You jumped into an argument and didn't take a side? Make a clear, concise statement.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."
Tinnin Sylph
Perkone
Caldari State
#145 - 2012-04-24 17:13:49 UTC
We're overdue a major screw up. But you see the problem (for everyone else) is that we enjoy the drama... Difference is with Goons when things go to hell we tend to pick ourselves up, laugh about it and then just carry on doing what we do.

Heh.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#146 - 2012-04-24 17:14:29 UTC
A goon implosion would make for great drama. Nullsec might finally get interesting again.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#147 - 2012-04-24 17:14:51 UTC
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:
Can't wait for the day goons implode( it may be closer than you think). No mega corp/alliance lasts forever.

Odds on the Japanese will be the hammer to fall.


Actually thats something I'll be watching... I mean, look at how serious they have taken other MMO's.... WE will be the ones calling THEM a sleeping giant.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#148 - 2012-04-24 17:17:03 UTC
Alexandra Delarge wrote:
trademeyourmoneys wrote:
Only way i can see to cause havoc to goons if for everyone to leave 0.0 until goons get bored.

I have a better idea. Why don't all the faceless NPC corp posters, who hate goons so much, get their mains out of hisec and fight goons instead?


TBH, I'm starting to think the faceless NPC forum alts are really goons...

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#149 - 2012-04-24 17:20:59 UTC
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
We're overdue a major screw up. But you see the problem (for everyone else) is that we enjoy the drama... Difference is with Goons when things go to hell we tend to pick ourselves up, laugh about it and then just carry on doing what we do.


That, my friend, is one of the main reasons why I am not a Goon hater.

I'm not really a Goon supporter either, there are some things about Goon culture I'm not comfortable with, but I have a lot of respect for that mindset... and the high level of evil wit that goes into many of your activities.

Carry on until the next hilarious debacle, carry on.

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Adacia Calla
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#150 - 2012-04-24 17:21:18 UTC
Band Of Brothers controlled EVE for MANY years.

Empires rise and fall just like anything else.

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#151 - 2012-04-24 17:24:05 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.

Examples

Jita
Ice Mining
Tech prices.

As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...


This post is hot gargabe.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#152 - 2012-04-24 17:25:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Adacia Calla wrote:
Band Of Brothers controlled EVE for MANY years.

Empires rise and fall just like anything else.

You know what they said: "Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolution."

Mind you, the description of the current executor corp of BoB is pretty funny too: "Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd"

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Shanana hope
Doomheim
#153 - 2012-04-24 17:25:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Shanana hope
goonswarms main goal in any mmo is to find and use any exploite they can to make any mmo game as missrable to play for others as they can... this from the horses mouth back on the first or second fanfest devlopers / goonsoarm and BoB chat I think it is on you tube if I recall. and on that note I say

Kill em all lol and have fun doing it
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#154 - 2012-04-24 17:26:42 UTC
Shanana hope wrote:
Kill em all lol and have fun doing it

Having fun is always good!

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hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#155 - 2012-04-24 17:27:21 UTC
JC Anderson wrote:
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:
Can't wait for the day goons implode( it may be closer than you think). No mega corp/alliance lasts forever.

Odds on the Japanese will be the hammer to fall.


Actually thats something I'll be watching... I mean, look at how serious they have taken other MMO's.... WE will be the ones calling THEM a sleeping giant.

Id say a conservative time for a decent Japanese corp to make there mark is 6 months.

Once the existing ones get their buddy's into eve things should heat up.

Pog mo thoin

Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#156 - 2012-04-24 17:28:57 UTC
If you don't like it, get an alliance together and fight the Goons.

No matter how much one despises them, one cannot ignore their chaotic wolf-pack determination. It's like a hive mind.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#157 - 2012-04-24 17:29:09 UTC
i see the new npc alt party line is "goons are becoming too powerful this should not be allowed"

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
stoicfaux
#158 - 2012-04-24 17:30:36 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
One can win EVE now?

Yes. By making hundreds of thousands of dollars with RMT. http://www.evenews24.com/2011/03/09/in-isk-we-trust-iskbank-com-exposed-thousand-of-customers-outed/

"it now appears that Iskbank.com made approximately $290,000 in sales for the 10-1/2-month period. These figures do not include any sales made through their sister site, Eveisk.ru and yes, those are US Dollars."

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#159 - 2012-04-24 17:31:42 UTC
Looking for a big out-of-game group who want to form an EVE alliance. Must have 100s of thousands of members. Reddit, Something Awful, and 4chan are already taken. Any ideas for another group that can invade EVE and meta-game? (My LinkedIn network is about 10,000% too small-- only about 100 contacts).
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#160 - 2012-04-24 17:32:59 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
i see the new npc alt party line is "goons are becoming too powerful this should not be allowed"


Eh... We can all throw tomatoes at you.