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CCP - Why are we allowing one alliance to control eve?
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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#41 - 2012-04-24 15:43:24 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Falin Whalen wrote:
Posting in an epic, butthurt because of Goons, thread.



We are hardly butthurt.

WE DON'T CARE !!!!!!


"Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies.

CareBears don't care so much they don't come to your space, and they don't harass you, and indeed they don't even fight back. That is the ultimate don't care and there isn't anything you can do, short of dying of starvation, next to a pack of Cheetos, that will demostrate a don't care level beyond that of the CareBear."
- Mass Attack



You really are trying too hard. Quite embarrassing really.

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#42 - 2012-04-24 15:43:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Henry Haphorn
Power changes hands every now and then regardless of who is in charge and how they became in charge.

Case in point: Band of Brothers (BoB)

Some time ago, there use to be a powerbloc that controlled much of Eve Online known as BoB. They were to the Goons as a government was to anarchists. BoB and Goons were the two most opposing forces at the time. Although I think the Goons use to operate under a different name before they were known as Goons. Can a Goonie please confirm?

Anyways, BoB wanted order and control over New Eden and its free market economy. Goons felt differently. They wanted chaos to be thrown into the mix. Overtime, one battle after another and one mismanagement after another on the part of BoB, the Goons won and BoB was no more.

Goons still like to invoke chaos even though they control the economy now. But eventually the Goons will be overthrown by another challenger who is willing to take them on for control of the free market economy.

Power changes hands every now and then regardless of who is in charge and how they became in charge.

That is a fact of life in New Eden that even the Goons themselves acknowledge.

Adapt or Die
Cavel Avada
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2012-04-24 15:44:03 UTC
If anyone came along who was charismatic enough to get together enough corps and alliances and coalitions to take the Goons out, then that would happen and someone else would take their place. That's the very definition of a sandbox. The fact that it hasn't happened yet just means that no one has come along who could pull that off.

I will say that, if you don't like Goons, go find somewhere else to live your EVE life. They're not EVERYWHERE.
Wolf Kruol
Suicide Squad Gamma
#44 - 2012-04-24 15:44:51 UTC
Because thats what freespace is about.. Groups with similar interest taking control of space that they want to benefit from. They want to prevent others from taking it from them too. So ya.. rest is obvious... Sandbox right.. Blink

“If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?

You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!”
stoicfaux
#45 - 2012-04-24 15:44:51 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.

As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.

I'm pretty sure that CCP is aware that Mittans represented less than 3% of Eve accounts. http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28529

CCP will let the Goons kick up sand as long as it doesn't negatively impact CCP's bottom line. (Where bottom line == player fun factor.)

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2012-04-24 15:45:10 UTC
Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:
I Once had sex


Then why the hell are you still playing this game? You don't belong here
Forum Harlot
Doomheim
#47 - 2012-04-24 15:45:34 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?


1.7/10.

If you dislike your goon overlords, band together and fight against them. Don't be daft.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#48 - 2012-04-24 15:46:33 UTC
Aryndel Vyst wrote:
A BLOO BLOO MY MINING BOTS CAN'T RUN UNOBSTRUCTED A BLOO BLOO



Reach in my front pocket for some Kleenex...............go ahead. Do not be afraid.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
qDoctor Strangelove
Doomheim
#49 - 2012-04-24 15:46:44 UTC  |  Edited by: qDoctor Strangelove
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.

Examples

Jita
Ice Mining
Tech prices.

As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...


Why is he allowed to control MY GAME when I pay and he is banned?

---

Ohh, for info.
Once upon a time, GOONS invaded Delve and made FREEPORTS.
They took stations and made it so EVERYONE could dock.

No other entity in EVE have done something like that for the average EVE players...
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#50 - 2012-04-24 15:47:30 UTC
Serge Bastana wrote:


You really are trying too hard. Quite embarrassing really.


I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sorry you are embarrassed.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Josef Djugashvilis
#51 - 2012-04-24 15:48:54 UTC
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
The big bad Mitten widdled in my sandbox. :cripes:


More likely to be drunken projectile vomit in your sandboxSmile

This is not a signature.
Alotta Cleavage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2012-04-24 15:49:17 UTC
If they are such a threat it seems like the other alliances would band in some sort of brotherhood and work together to eliminate them.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#53 - 2012-04-24 15:49:41 UTC
qDoctor Strangelove wrote:


Why is he allowed to control MY GAME when I pay and he is banned?


He loves to claim that while his Lackeys do the s**twork. Sits there like bin Laden in his compound with that TV and a jar of Lube, while the real work goes on elsewhere.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Flakey Foont
#54 - 2012-04-24 15:51:25 UTC
Hallen Ambramotte wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.

Examples

Jita
Ice Mining
Tech prices.

As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...

Bumping so it is seen.



Gosh I thought that you knew nothing about the game: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99941&find=unread

So why are you posting in this thread?
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#55 - 2012-04-24 15:51:40 UTC
CCP didn't make jita, the players did. Now you want CCP to care about what people 9 years ago started and you just inherited freely as a convenience? Herp a durp durr.
Garibaldi Sinatra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2012-04-24 15:51:53 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:
I Once had sex


Then why the hell are you still playing this game? You don't belong here



lol you bugger , twisting my words...

**Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time. **(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless)
Anslo
Scope Works
#57 - 2012-04-24 15:52:00 UTC
Meh. Eventually their monopoly will eff the economy up so much that most people will stop playing and move onto something else. At that point CCP will see that their game is doomed and the goons will have completed their mission; to ruin a game and everyone's good time, bankrupt a company, and shut down Eve. It's their goal and it has been all along.

But, CCP won't act on it, they never will.

Welp.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#58 - 2012-04-24 15:52:43 UTC
We the players of EvE create the politics of EvE.

The political arena we have created is based firmly on the "might = right" model so until a environmental or exterior force or a group with more will, power and cohesion appears that is a true challenge to the economic and military power of the CFC nothing is going to change.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Whitehound
#59 - 2012-04-24 15:53:25 UTC
One can win EVE now?

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Garibaldi Sinatra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2012-04-24 15:54:49 UTC
Confirming Goonswarm have nothing too do with the eve economy. and everything too do with playing internet spaceships and having fun in the least expensive way possible.

**Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time. **(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless)