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CCP - Why are we allowing one alliance to control eve?
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evereplicant
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-24 15:03:39 UTC
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.

Examples

Jita
Ice Mining
Tech prices.

As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
Hallen Ambramotte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-04-24 15:05:13 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.

Examples

Jita
Ice Mining
Tech prices.

As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...

Bumping so it is seen.

He says "You've already had breakfast." I ask "But what about second breakfast?"
Tinnin Sylph
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-04-24 15:05:47 UTC
Ah yes but you see it's a sandbox...


Heh.
geit reyl
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-04-24 15:05:54 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?


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Warzon3
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-04-24 15:07:58 UTC
any large alliance can do stuff goons do like the gallente ice interdiction.
The difference between goons and other alliances is that goons say: Heck yeah smashing idea lets do it!!! While others will say: Yeah sounds great have fun I'm staying in 0.0 ratting.
Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2012-04-24 15:08:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Garnoo
you can control CCP too.... you just need to be so awesome (like The Mittani) to gather more than 25 000 gamers.... so stop whining
its not my fault you dont have so many friends!

People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back -  EvE
WolfeReign
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-24 15:08:49 UTC
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
Ah yes but you see it's a sandbox...




working as intended
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
#8 - 2012-04-24 15:08:58 UTC
So?

EVE is 8.6 LY^2 of playability... somewhere in there is a special place for you too.
Garibaldi Sinatra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-04-24 15:09:23 UTC
One might also ask why are we allowing the British Empire to control the entire world; weilding the puppet America state as our 40 pound Rotweiller?



**Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time. **(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless)
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-04-24 15:10:01 UTC
Well, we're planning to take Cobalt Edge next since they have the best trusec in drone space and the other ones are complete crap. Other alliances just suck and think they're all cool when they rent out space.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-04-24 15:10:56 UTC
Nerf Goons.
































Buff Hulks.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#12 - 2012-04-24 15:11:24 UTC
Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:
One might also ask why are we allowing the British Empire to control the entire world; weilding the puppet America state as our 40 pound Rotweiller?



It's all about the Tea, I think..........

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#13 - 2012-04-24 15:12:40 UTC  |  Edited by: War Kitten
evereplicant wrote:
Eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.


At the very core of sandboxyness is the ability of one sandbox to interact with and affect another's sandbox. Without such inter-sandboxian-action, we would just have individual piles of sand.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-04-24 15:15:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Xython
I like how the same people who pulled the fainting couch bullshit and blackmailed CCP into screwing The Mittani over are now trying the same trick to force CCP to...

What, exactly? Make Goonswarm move out of Deklein? Start giving away Technetium? Stop doing any PVP at all?

I'm not quite certain what the endgame plot of all these sockpuppet threads are aiming for.
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#15 - 2012-04-24 15:16:15 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.

Examples

Jita
Ice Mining
Tech prices.

As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...


Form an alliance.
Get Members
Defeat Goons
???
Profit

There you go.
Tinnin Sylph
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-04-24 15:16:28 UTC
The big bad Mitten widdled in my sandbox. :cripes:

Heh.
VaMei
Meafi Corp
#17 - 2012-04-24 15:20:25 UTC  |  Edited by: VaMei
War Kitten wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
Eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.


At the very core of sandboxyness is the ability of one sandbox to interact with and affect another's sandbox. Without such inter-sandboxian-action, we would just have individual piles of sand.


^This.
One universe. One sandbox. Every action has some impact on everyone else.
Watch The Butterfly Effect again, then try to tell us it's not working as intended.

Anyone could do what the Goons do. Others have done it before, just not as well. Others will do it again.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#18 - 2012-04-24 15:21:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
War Kitten wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
Eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.


At the very core of sandboxyness is the ability of one sandbox to interact with and affect another's sandbox. Without such inter-sandboxian-action, we would just have individual piles of sand.


Brilliant Big smile

My impression of the whole thing is CCP wants to see how this plays out.

It's a kind of 'fact-finding' endeavor to see if they do indeed need to step in at some point in the future.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-04-24 15:21:07 UTC
Posting in an epic, butthurt because of Goons, thread.

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 
Arkturus McFadden
Anukar
#20 - 2012-04-24 15:22:32 UTC
If people hate them so much, why don't you do something about it instead of whining on the forums? How about someone like the Mittani unify alliances into waging war on the Goonswarm? It's all very simple really, just takes patience and time. Two traits next to all prospectors know.
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