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Skilles and Alt’s
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war1 Akachi
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-22 07:33:47 UTC
What i am thinking and would like, is traning on alt’s slow training like 10-100 sp an hour, this will (at least in my point of view ) increase the use of your 2 alt slots per account while not increasing the number of alts on the “alt market”!
This can be done very simple by placing a mark on your main that only you and ccp are able to see on your character selection screen!
2 thing I would like is, alt absorption! Meaning you absorp your alt’s skills and to some degree SP.
By absorping skills you get better at stuff would like to do fast and can faster compet (at least at skill lvl) with older chars.
This could be done requiring infomorph phy. Lvl 5 and some lvl of isk (my ideer is bout 450-550 mill ), by doing this you create an isk sink and by keeping it round plex price you allow newcomers to access it fast (they still buy high sp toons if they can afford the plex) and by doing alt absorption you allow ppl to change from say mining to pvp fast (that should please some trolles) and pvp’ers to r&d without loosing lots of time from pvp training!
This will also increase the price of toon sales!
All this was talked about at the fanfest
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#2 - 2012-04-22 08:41:40 UTC
war1 Akachi wrote:
2 thing I would like is, alt absorption! Meaning you absorp your alt’s skills and to some degree SP

If you want to "absorb" the skill you'll have to completely "absorb" the skillpoints too and not just to "some degree".

So basically it is a skillpoint transfer from one toon to another.
You could take a character with a history of scamming, that's blacklisted by an alliance as a spy, corp thief or whatever you want, or maybe is at -10 sec status, transfer his skill(point)s to another newly created toon, biomass the old and simply start all over again.

And all that for just a plex? Even 10 plex wouldn't be enough for that. And I guess it would be a lot easier to just implement the renaming of toons.

Remove standings and insurance.
war1 Akachi
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-04-22 08:56:33 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
war1 Akachi wrote:
2 thing I would like is, alt absorption! Meaning you absorp your alt’s skills and to some degree SP

If you want to "absorb" the skill you'll have to completely "absorb" the skillpoints too and not just to "some degree".

So basically it is a skillpoint transfer from one toon to another.
You could take a character with a history of scamming, that's blacklisted by an alliance as a spy, corp thief or whatever you want, or maybe is at -10 sec status, transfer his skill(point)s to another newly created toon, biomass the old and simply start all over again.

And all that for just a plex? Even 10 plex wouldn't be enough for that. And I guess it would be a lot easier to just implement the renaming of toons.

of course you would have to "absorb" the sp as well as the skills themself but the skills and sp i am wrighting bout is the skills your main does NOT have and all extra sp would be the to "some degree"
and yes you are right renaming chars would be easier but that is not what i am trying to get at!
what i am trying to get at is to boost low sp chars and to make it easier to switch carreier and this absorbing fits well with bloodline blending that also talked about at fanfest
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#4 - 2012-04-22 09:29:47 UTC
war1 Akachi wrote:
what i am trying to get at is to boost low sp chars and to make it easier to switch carreier and this absorbing fits well with bloodline blending that also talked about at fanfest

Well, you'll have to give more details then, I guess. What do you consider a low sp character, for instance? How do you prevent possible "abuses" I outlined above? Or do you think they should be a part of the game?

Remove standings and insurance.
war1 Akachi
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-04-22 09:47:00 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
war1 Akachi wrote:
what i am trying to get at is to boost low sp chars and to make it easier to switch carreier and this absorbing fits well with bloodline blending that also talked about at fanfest

Well, you'll have to give more details then, I guess. What do you consider a low sp character, for instance? How do you prevent possible "abuses" I outlined above? Or do you think they should be a part of the game?

i cant prevent abuse no more then you can i am just a player like you preventing abuse is ccp's job!
and low SP in this context is relevent for instence you can be high in sp in mining/industry but low in gunnery pvp/missions and so on!
i dont pretent to have all the answers if i did i wouldnt have to wright here :)
i am just saying this is something i would like and it was a topic at fanfest and fits well with bloodblending that was also a topic at fanfest!
but by all means if you have iders to prevent abuse go ahead! but keep in mind if i buy a char with a record of scamming and greifing i am still able to turn him in to what i would like that char to be and i could take a good guy char and turn it in to a scammer!
eve is real and with out that many limits it is my life/char i can do what i please with it good or bad
kon emu
Tornado Developments
Mildy Unprofessional
#6 - 2012-04-24 13:28:04 UTC
maybe if i ate like a 40mil sp alt because i wanted to hit 150mil faster, then it doubled the speed i trained those other characters skills and the character is destroyed.. e.g both characters have spaceship command V, so the sp is wasted/lost but I automagically start training freighter V (cause my now destroyed alt had it) and I can't change/modify it.) but it trains twice as fast? potentially locking myself in with no other options to train for a year or two.

So far as instant skills transferring simply put thats silly. i'd be able to just pick up characters with things i needed trained, then i'd be sitting on 300m+ sp by the end of next week using char bazaar...
war1 Akachi
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-04-24 17:22:33 UTC
kon emu wrote:
maybe if i ate like a 40mil sp alt because i wanted to hit 150mil faster, then it doubled the speed i trained those other characters skills and the character is destroyed.. e.g both characters have spaceship command V, so the sp is wasted/lost but I automagically start training freighter V (cause my now destroyed alt had it) and I can't change/modify it.) but it trains twice as fast? potentially locking myself in with no other options to train for a year or two.

So far as instant skills transferring simply put thats silly. i'd be able to just pick up characters with things i needed trained, then i'd be sitting on 300m+ sp by the end of next week using char bazaar...

that's just it no you would'nt since each skill you got would make it more difficult to find something new to absorb! like you your self wrote :e.g both characters have spaceship command V, so the sp is wasted/lost ! that means you would faster be able to change profession but only by that much since the cost and limits of the chars you would be able to get would get huge very fast
so you would never ever get better then those that startet at release but all could get close if they wanted to
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-04-25 00:49:14 UTC
OP the main point that you detractor is trying to make is that whenever you propose a new change you have to see if it can be abused as if it can it will


So many ideas sound fantastic in the good that they can do but its the abuse it can do that is always the focal point
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.